From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE411382C5 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC519E09E4; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-x244.google.com (mail-io0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E85AE09A8; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-x244.google.com with SMTP id b20so2393679iof.5; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 06:41:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UaO7gHa+A8gEEjhV9TnY6UYrU9uycTNIF/F6gx783/Y=; b=jY8Zpvb84QxNXvILvzEt/7a1ICdE5PgamvUQRcrhom6yM0hTOWP1tx9VbkGkygUl0+ 4pOYAygSuZwgVN8YB8H+Vli62w1Fn+TNQkVr/gkLd9N+VEnjeEcqCWwvO6BB8zrmLlxn U9GDmsfWsy1/VJpMfhRV4vmrTm12j37jATFXV8WwwNq472GGF0FLOI/eMGnPDXjeNKGo AJ9FF0yr4AQG7SX5lvMdpLsbqJb9pdjvEd7smi/vYsTGOayzXzXzIyQmanonnkikqPou BnslZhGbpem+1Vv8VMk7QRzXSPQH1AJho4yQCjjnb8+DKfGlTOhS4suRLro9fWmZyw21 k4dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=UaO7gHa+A8gEEjhV9TnY6UYrU9uycTNIF/F6gx783/Y=; b=TTFeMPGaRPAkfk8umVsElCftEictTNdXY3a6vf7b2roOVyw9hi0TwxoHvLE/Bw2xh2 e1uSt9z6KTZv5arL4u+NqDqVXZRPM8wHHYfzRO7kobU8tKrUkzkD3jkC+9XvR05xv4GE DER141PUjH1JQAhHVM5couWZu1JXdv0/EvR9FwG90SiYkq/xXAfDAvlbgCLAMrr/+ylZ d69TuJRNBnUdeQt3GZALmHySSzNHWVbOGlfR4k71GNwZBhCr1bGS5Y4Xl98b4tCr2Q2M 99Sg4KW+5lkiy7pkWcMm+iDhThW4/jIB2jMqP1NOUhD+GcRBLqX+M1FCCQifh/umSRg5 8gaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7EGhdroJmgLFuM4hoEzT45jrBq39ZCBYtPDyolZU3/txuA0DOCe 11xMe3Vporqrv0XWx+OSDICWlXXoCTzNANXPJVA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELukTMh7+sjKOVMwju22kcNZqvIbzxwC0qZhCVt3D/oC/xL4k0y2iae7FUtbT0U+PMiR8GvL4wvKgaWVu5qYCeQ= X-Received: by 10.107.195.140 with SMTP id t134mr15917736iof.206.1521553301486; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 06:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.197.135 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 06:41:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180320132637.43744eb0@abudhabi.paradoxon.rec> References: <4aab96fa-0edb-6a28-791e-28e2103f2a30@gentoo.org> <20180320132637.43744eb0@abudhabi.paradoxon.rec> From: Gregory Woodbury Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 1efdf87e-1a61-4717-8563-d6ee9a5d2fff X-Archives-Hash: 4576798d325a3e89906437c34d6f7e67 On gentoo-dev list: k_f points out that this should have been talked about during previous discussion periods... It was discussed "to death" over and over, and many argued against it till they were blue in the face. Their concerns were ignored, and Gentoo lost a lot more of the "Free and Open" reputation it theoretically prides itself on. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury redwolfe@gmail.com