[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Thomas Kahle]

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Hi,

I will retire, so here are my remaining packages.  Feel free to
e-mail me any questions re this.  sci-math is in CC because there
are quite a few math packages.

app-emacs/undo-tree
app-misc/anki
app-portage/tatt
app-text/tesseract
app-text/pdfsandwich
dev-cpp/gtest
dev-python/python-wpactrl
dev-python/python-iwscan
media-sound/gmtp
net-misc/wicd
sci-libs/bliss
sci-libs/mpir
sci-libs/lrslib
sci-mathematics/gfan
sci-mathematics/nauty
sci-mathematics/singular
sci-mathematics/frobby
sci-mathematics/normaliz
sci-mathematics/polymake
sci-mathematics/4ti2
sci-mathematics/bertini
sci-mathematics/topcom
sci-mathematics/gimps
sci-mathematics/xmds
sci-mathematics/Macaulay2
sci-misc/flashdot
www-apps/tt-rss

Cheers,
Thomas


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[James Le Cuirot]

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On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100
Thomas Kahle <tomka@gentoo.org> wrote:

> I will retire

Sorry to hear that. :(

> app-text/tesseract

I maintain media-libs/leptonica, which is primarily in the tree because
of Tesseract. I don't use Tesseract myself though and it's not a
trivial package to maintain so I'd rather someone else picked it up.
Surely one of you does some OCR? This is the best free software OCR
project around.

> www-apps/tt-rss

I'll take this one. I use it every day.

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James Le Cuirot (chewi)
Gentoo Linux Developer

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Thomas Kahle]

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On 01/01/2017 00:00, James Le Cuirot wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100
> Thomas Kahle <tomka@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> I will retire
> 
> Sorry to hear that. :(
> 
>> app-text/tesseract
> 
> I maintain media-libs/leptonica, which is primarily in the tree because
> of Tesseract. I don't use Tesseract myself though and it's not a
> trivial package to maintain so I'd rather someone else picked it up.
> Surely one of you does some OCR? This is the best free software OCR
> project around.

I started maintaining tesseract because I use

app-text/pdfsandwich

Maybe takers also want to look at this.  It's very little work (but it
depends on ocaml).

>> www-apps/tt-rss
> 
> I'll take this one. I use it every day.

Very good.  Note that this has a rolling release model upstream.
The master branch is considered stable.  I used to make a tarball
from this every 3 or 4 months and host them on my devspace.
Please also change the SRC_URI for the current ebuilds, as my
devspace will go offline eventually.

Cheers,
Thomas



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Thomas Kahle
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[James Le Cuirot]

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On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 10:42:51 +0100
Thomas Kahle <tomka@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 01/01/2017 00:00, James Le Cuirot wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100
> > Thomas Kahle <tomka@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >   
> >> I will retire  
> > 
> > Sorry to hear that. :(
> >   
> >> app-text/tesseract  
> > 
> > I maintain media-libs/leptonica, which is primarily in the tree because
> > of Tesseract. I don't use Tesseract myself though and it's not a
> > trivial package to maintain so I'd rather someone else picked it up.
> > Surely one of you does some OCR? This is the best free software OCR
> > project around.  
> 
> I started maintaining tesseract because I use
> 
> app-text/pdfsandwich
> 
> Maybe takers also want to look at this.  It's very little work (but it
> depends on ocaml).

Just want to add that if it sounds like I'm being lazy, I don't
actually use Leptonica either! I only maintain it because I've
developed a close relation with upstream over the years that stemmed
from trying to get (the now defunct) Audiveris to work.

> >> www-apps/tt-rss  
> > 
> > I'll take this one. I use it every day.  
> 
> Very good.  Note that this has a rolling release model upstream.
> The master branch is considered stable.  I used to make a tarball
> from this every 3 or 4 months and host them on my devspace.
> Please also change the SRC_URI for the current ebuilds, as my
> devspace will go offline eventually.

Yeah, I did notice that. Upstream does still make the odd tag even
since he announced it's now rolling but I guess I shouldn't wait for
those to appear. No need to host it on devspace though.

https://tt-rss.org/gitlab/fox/tt-rss/repository/archive.tar.gz?ref=832aa24943f6b65a811dc6c7414dede412ab1ec6

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Gentoo Linux Developer

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Lars Wendler]

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Hi Thomas,

On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I will retire, so here are my remaining packages. 

Sad day seeing another dev leaving :-(

>net-misc/wicd

I can take this one if nobody else is interested in it.


>Cheers,
>Thomas
>
>

I wish you all the best and if you ever feel the urge, please come
back :)

Kind regards
Lars

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Brian Evans]

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On 01/01/2017 12:16 PM, Lars Wendler wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I will retire, so here are my remaining packages. 
> 
> Sad day seeing another dev leaving :-(
> 
>> net-misc/wicd
> 
> I can take this one if nobody else is interested in it.

IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.

Brian


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[grozin]

On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.
I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view) the 
most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a 
notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?

Andrey

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Michał Górny]

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On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
grozin@gentoo.org wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
> > IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
> > heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.  
> I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view) the 
> most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a 
> notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?

This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal.
Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore
highly relies on software packages that are under active development
and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of
development are especially interesting since they can supply users
and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable
issues.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Lars Wendler]

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Hi,

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) grozin@gentoo.org wrote:

>On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.  

this is plain wrong. Upstream is not dead, just not very active anymore.

>I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view)
>the most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a 
>notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?
>
>Andrey
>

Lars

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[M. J. Everitt]

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On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
> grozin@gentoo.org wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
>>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
>>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.  
>> I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view) the 
>> most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a 
>> notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?
> This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal.
> Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore
> highly relies on software packages that are under active development
> and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of
> development are especially interesting since they can supply users
> and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable
> issues.
>
From your response I infer the following, please discuss:
1) "working software is not a goal" .. so we can have a tree full of
broken and/or unstable packages. What is the point of any QA/CI system
if this is applicable?
2) "require active maintainance" .. by whom exactly? Where are the flood
of keen developers bringing their bleeding edge code (with their
ludicrous packaging requirements and language demands) to Gentoo?
3) "interesting bugs and unpredictable isssue" .. WTF?

Michal .. are you (once again...) High .. or is your email (once again)
so soaked in sarcasm we can't tell any useful content from the complete
drivel ...


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Damien LEVAC]

On 01/03/2017 09:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
>> grozin@gentoo.org wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
>>>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
>>>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.
>>> I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view) the
>>> most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a
>>> notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?
>> This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal.
>> Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore
>> highly relies on software packages that are under active development
>> and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of
>> development are especially interesting since they can supply users
>> and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable
>> issues.
>>
>  From your response I infer the following, please discuss:
> 1) "working software is not a goal" .. so we can have a tree full of
> broken and/or unstable packages. What is the point of any QA/CI system
> if this is applicable?
> 2) "require active maintainance" .. by whom exactly? Where are the flood
> of keen developers bringing their bleeding edge code (with their
> ludicrous packaging requirements and language demands) to Gentoo?
> 3) "interesting bugs and unpredictable isssue" .. WTF?
>
> Michal .. are you (once again...) High .. or is your email (once again)
> so soaked in sarcasm we can't tell any useful content from the complete
> drivel ...
>
It was obviously sarcasm... The "Gentoo Way™" was the hint... It is a 
cynical criticism of younger generation of developers mixing 
intellectual curiosity with what should be an ultra-stable platform. (Or 
this is how I interpreted it...)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Mart Raudsepp]

Ühel kenal päeval, T, 03.01.2017 kell 09:34, kirjutas Damien LEVAC:
> 
> On 01/03/2017 09:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> > 
> > On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
> > > grozin@gentoo.org wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead
> > > > > and it
> > > > > heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.
> > > > I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point
> > > > of view) the
> > > > most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections
> > > > on a
> > > > notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?
> > > This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal.
> > > Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore
> > > highly relies on software packages that are under active
> > > development
> > > and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of
> > > development are especially interesting since they can supply
> > > users
> > > and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable
> > > issues.
> > > 
> >  From your response I infer the following, please discuss:
> > 1) "working software is not a goal" .. so we can have a tree full
> > of
> > broken and/or unstable packages. What is the point of any QA/CI
> > system
> > if this is applicable?
> > 2) "require active maintainance" .. by whom exactly? Where are the
> > flood
> > of keen developers bringing their bleeding edge code (with their
> > ludicrous packaging requirements and language demands) to Gentoo?
> > 3) "interesting bugs and unpredictable isssue" .. WTF?
> > 
> > Michal .. are you (once again...) High .. or is your email (once
> > again)
> > so soaked in sarcasm we can't tell any useful content from the
> > complete
> > drivel ...
> > 
> It was obviously sarcasm... The "Gentoo Way™" was the hint... It is
> a 
> cynical criticism of younger generation of developers mixing 
> intellectual curiosity with what should be an ultra-stable platform.
> (Or 
> this is how I interpreted it...)


I believe with this mgorny has given ample proof that he is just a
ciaranm sock puppet account.
Now where did I leave my pitchfork at...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Kent Fredric]

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On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:11:18 +0200
Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> wrote:

> I believe with this mgorny has given ample proof that he is just a
> ciaranm sock puppet account.

<fake-conspiracy-hat>
One neat trick is to have *two* sock puppet accounts, and then have one
accuse the other of being a sock puppet, which typically leads people
to not suspect the accuser is also a sock puppet, and instead trust the
second account more!

Now, Imagine what you could achieve with *three* sock puppet accounts.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 01/03/2017 06:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
>> grozin@gentoo.org wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
>>>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
>>>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.  
>>> I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view) the 
>>> most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a 
>>> notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?
>> This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal.
>> Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore
>> highly relies on software packages that are under active development
>> and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of
>> development are especially interesting since they can supply users
>> and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable
>> issues.
>>
> From your response I infer the following, please discuss:
> 1) "working software is not a goal" .. so we can have a tree full of
> broken and/or unstable packages. What is the point of any QA/CI system
> if this is applicable?
> 2) "require active maintainance" .. by whom exactly? Where are the flood
> of keen developers bringing their bleeding edge code (with their
> ludicrous packaging requirements and language demands) to Gentoo?
> 3) "interesting bugs and unpredictable isssue" .. WTF?
> 
> Michal .. are you (once again...) High .. or is your email (once again)
> so soaked in sarcasm we can't tell any useful content from the complete
> drivel ...
> 
Maybe I'm weird but I thought it was funny...

I'm in favor of keeping software around until it breaks. When there's a
non-existent upstream and nobody's willing to take up the helm
themselves, it's a clear indication that it's in danger of being
treecleaned. In some cases that's good; some packages get left behind
and never updated, CVEs get released, nobody cares about the package and
it sits masked for a while. Those are the packages we should consider
for treecleaning, not just "oh it's been 2 years since a release" or
"upstream website troubles".

On the latter count, does anyone attempt to reach upstream before
suggesting we get rid of the package(s)? Is there not some forum we can
use to reach users who may be interested in proxy-maintaining it? This
discussion makes me wonder if we need (more) formal guidelines for
treecleaning. I think we've got a few people who are eager to clean the
tree -- and their goal is admirable -- but until we can get metrics on
who's using what, it's hard to say how much damage removing a package
will do for users. A thread on gentoo-user re: lastrites might not be a
bad idea.

Thanks for the laugh Michał. :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Mart Raudsepp]

Ühel kenal päeval, N, 05.01.2017 kell 22:00, kirjutas Daniel Campbell:
> I'm in favor of keeping software around until it breaks. When there's
> a
> non-existent upstream and nobody's willing to take up the helm
> themselves, it's a clear indication that it's in danger of being
> treecleaned. In some cases that's good; some packages get left behind
> and never updated, CVEs get released,

CVEs don't get released about dead packages that no-one cares about or
has installed as no-one is checking them for bugs and evaluating if
they are security bugs. They just sit there, potentially providing a
nice potential security hole to abuse.

> nobody cares about the package and
> it sits masked for a while. Those are the packages we should consider
> for treecleaning, not just "oh it's been 2 years since a release" or
> "upstream website troubles".
> 
> On the latter count, does anyone attempt to reach upstream before
> suggesting we get rid of the package(s)? Is there not some forum we
> can
> use to reach users who may be interested in proxy-maintaining it?
> This
> discussion makes me wonder if we need (more) formal guidelines for
> treecleaning. I think we've got a few people who are eager to clean
> the
> tree -- and their goal is admirable -- but until we can get metrics
> on
> who's using what, it's hard to say how much damage removing a package
> will do for users. A thread on gentoo-user re: lastrites might not be
> a
> bad idea.

The package.masked message that is shown to a user having it installed
is supposed to be providing that forum to potential proxy-maintainers
and such, to step up and fix things within that period and save it from
permanent deletion.
That's the reason we just don't outright delete them immediately, but
do this "last rited, deletion in 30 days" dance. Even though the
message doesn't repeatedly say this for all the p.mask descriptions
(but maybe the package manager stock extra text does, or should).

And ultimately things can be added back, when sensible, e.g a new
upstream appears that fixes issues, or whatever. Perhaps this user
interested in it enough to care deeply about it being remove from
Gentoo is interested enough to become that upstream or chase down
someone who is willing to, or provide motivation to the old upstream,
or...

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Johann Schmitz (ercpe)]

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Hi,

due to my retirement, the following packages need a new maintainer:

dev-java/boilerpipe
dev-libs/grok
dev-python/cfgio
dev-python/disqus-python
dev-python/django-openid-auth
dev-python/django-opensearch
dev-python/django-otp
dev-python/django-otp-yubikey
dev-python/django-phonenumber-field
dev-python/django-two-factor-auth
dev-python/ipcalc
dev-python/pSQL
dev-python/phonenumbers
dev-python/py2neo
dev-python/requests-oauthlib
dev-python/shortuuid
dev-python/twilio
dev-python/twython
dev-python/yubiotp
net-analyzer/nagios-check_linux_bonding
net-misc/openvpn-auth-ldap
sci-biology/picard

openvpn-auth-ldap, grok and django-two-factor-auth have open bugs:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?email1=ercpe%40gentoo.org&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=equals&query_format=advanced&resolution=---


Regards,
Johann


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

[Geaaru]

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Hi,

+1 for dev-python/ipcalc

I will update my issue as proxy maintainer for this if is ok.

Bye

On Mar 3, 2018 08:38, "Johann Schmitz (ercpe)" <ercpe@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> due to my retirement, the following packages need a new maintainer:
>
> dev-java/boilerpipe
> dev-libs/grok
> dev-python/cfgio
> dev-python/disqus-python
> dev-python/django-openid-auth
> dev-python/django-opensearch
> dev-python/django-otp
> dev-python/django-otp-yubikey
> dev-python/django-phonenumber-field
> dev-python/django-two-factor-auth
> dev-python/ipcalc
> dev-python/pSQL
> dev-python/phonenumbers
> dev-python/py2neo
> dev-python/requests-oauthlib
> dev-python/shortuuid
> dev-python/twilio
> dev-python/twython
> dev-python/yubiotp
> net-analyzer/nagios-check_linux_bonding
> net-misc/openvpn-auth-ldap
> sci-biology/picard
>
> openvpn-auth-ldap, grok and django-two-factor-auth have open bugs:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?email1=ercpe%
> 40gentoo.org&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=equals&query_
> format=advanced&resolution=---
>
>
> Regards,
> Johann
>
>

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