From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1A04138334 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1D49E0809; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89FB0E077F for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f52.google.com (mail-io1-f52.google.com [209.85.166.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A33F34BA42 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f52.google.com with SMTP id u8so32280920iom.5 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 09:43:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXTmRB24Z+g2eyGwWc5f0vf5YCUHvMKCV/JN7FlXV/DgvkzNX41 sR7m9XN+NS0CwC9/rb2OOnUaGEPE/9CcWQg8tGo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzw9QxMBTGIucJlaI4I5mYjslOlp6NqzAXMH3srjf3cxJejqtXMxWcp9/lRQ56IhDwCbdfajK64Ghemrqu+qdA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:a0e:: with SMTP id 14mr32276182jan.4.1570985025370; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 09:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191012110023.165840-1-soap@gentoo.org> <1bbad081be57654e20e590734ed8aa88dc6f6176.camel@gentoo.org> <20191012160228.GA2481@linux1.home> <25763900.3IMS5cSOPn@ernie> <86031cc11741c13b354ad85577a1e32c4ca97460.camel@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: From: Mike Gilbert Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 12:43:43 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin' To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 635845a4-a8e1-4b46-82e6-c44373ab7a34 X-Archives-Hash: 7ba442112b4a8b17a148ca62b739dad4 On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 12:33 PM Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wr= ote: > > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200, David Seifert wrote: > > > > > > * Some distros have not just merged / and /usr, they > > > > > > > > > > > > have also merged /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. By giving > > > > > > users the choice of merging */bin and */sbin, > > > > > > Gentoo follows suit. > > > > > > > > > > What about the scenario when /bin has been merged with /usr/sbin > > > > > and /sbin with /usr/bin? ;-P > > > > > > > > I also don't see the need for something like this. The idea of the > > > > /usr > > > > merge is to have all binaries available in one place, and there > > > > really > > > > is not a good justification for separating bin from sbin. > > > > > > Do I read this correctly? USE=3D-split-usr currently means that /bin= , > > > /sbin, / > > > usr/bin and /usr/sbin point to the same directory? > > > > > > If that is not the case, then I agree that users should have the > > > possibility > > > to set it up like this and USE=3D-split-sbin should be supported. > > > > > > --Dennis > > > > I agree, I wasn't aware that USE=3D-split-usr implies the complete 2- > > level (/usr and *sbin) merge. In that case, all of this is obsolete. > > That was NOT my intention when I introduced the split-usr USE flag. > > For bin/sbin, I would prefer to drop any conflicting links > unconditionally. Do you have examples of scenarios where this is not > possible? I guess more generally, I would like to know how you see this USE flag being used. I have some guidelines for split-usr on my devspace (needs a home on the wi= ki). https://dev.gentoo.org/~floppym/split-usr.txt