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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:49:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ0EP42qapT8hpt1ZZnQGsEMBYykZgxJWHL4oe_Z1ATyLq2cbA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1890158.tdWV9SEqCh@pinacolada>

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 11:37 AM Andreas K. Huettel
<dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> why do we *copy* the timezone file to /etc/localtime, instead of symlinking it like everyone else?
>
> 1) Our handbook recommends:
>
> echo "Europe/Brussels" > /etc/timezone
> emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
>
> which is effectively doing
>
> echo "Europe/Brussels" > /etc/timezone
> cp -f /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Brussels /etc/localtime
>
> 2) Most other distros seem to just do
>
> ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Brussels /etc/localtime
>
> and use the link content as timezone name (this is also what is required by systemd).
>
> Does anyone remember the reason for 1) ? Or is that lost in history?

I think the most obvious reason would be to support late-mounting of
/usr, after the system clock has been reset with a UTC offset on boot.
To make this work, the /etc/localtime file would need to be available
when the hwclock init script runs.

These days, I suspect there are not many users running systems with a
hardware clock in local time, and a separate /usr filesystem, and no
initramfs to mount /usr early.

I created a PR to adjust the logic in timezone-data to promote
symlinks for new installs, while keeping regular files in place for
existing users.

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/20050

If we added some logic to detect if /usr is a separate filesystem, we
could possibly be even more aggressive about this. But I'm not sure I
want to rock the boat that much in one commit.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-22  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-20 15:37 [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ? Andreas K. Huettel
2021-03-20 16:04 ` Nils Freydank
2021-03-20 19:10   ` William Hubbs
2021-03-21  4:18     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-03-21  4:48       ` Alec Warner
2021-03-21  5:27         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-03-21  5:56           ` Alec Warner
2021-03-21  7:23             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-03-21  7:58       ` James Le Cuirot
2021-03-22  8:59         ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2021-03-22 20:18           ` Lars Wendler
2021-03-23  3:01             ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2021-03-22 22:54       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2021-03-23  7:22         ` Jaco Kroon
2021-03-23 11:31         ` Rich Freeman
2021-03-27 21:43           ` Joshua Kinard
2021-03-27 22:16             ` James Le Cuirot
2021-03-27 22:40               ` Joshua Kinard
2021-03-28  9:25                 ` James Le Cuirot
2021-03-28 23:46                   ` Joshua Kinard
2021-03-29  8:06                     ` James Le Cuirot
2021-04-22 18:14                       ` Marek Szuba
2021-04-22 18:18                 ` Marek Szuba
2021-03-28  0:32             ` William Hubbs
2021-03-28  2:51               ` Joshua Kinard
2021-03-28 20:05                 ` William Hubbs
2021-03-28 23:31                   ` Joshua Kinard
2021-03-29  6:07                     ` William Hubbs
2021-03-28  1:00             ` Rich Freeman
2021-03-28  1:58               ` Joshua Kinard
2021-03-21 23:58 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2021-03-22  2:06   ` Mike Gilbert
2021-03-22  3:06     ` Thomas Deutschmann
2021-03-22  3:19       ` Thomas Deutschmann
2021-03-22  4:07       ` Mike Gilbert
2021-03-22  2:49 ` Mike Gilbert [this message]

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