From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S1KaV-0006d8-0x for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:35:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4BDFE0ACD; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8867E0960 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17C421B4007 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj10 with SMTP id j10so212698bkw.40 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of floppym@gentoo.org designates 10.205.129.141 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.205.129.141; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of floppym@gentoo.org designates 10.205.129.141 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=floppym@gentoo.org Received: from mr.google.com ([10.205.129.141]) by 10.205.129.141 with SMTP id hi13mr3259402bkc.7.1330187656268 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:34:16 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.129.141 with SMTP id hi13mr2671722bkc.7.1330187656180; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.200.69 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:34:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120225060107.GA12218@linux1> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:34:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools From: Mike Gilbert To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 5e676202-9e08-4273-a1e3-346217b0e05f X-Archives-Hash: c82422e689a0855596b7a328b9fc7ba5 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > As such, I disagree with floppym that the handbook's kernel module > section needs updating for this, too. =C2=A0The handbook doesn't even dea= l > with non-default dev-managers, nor does it mention module-init-tools, it > just assumes it's there. =C2=A0Udev, as the default dev-manager, will be > pulling in kmod already, with its default module-init-tools compatibility > meaning no change in documentation necessary. =C2=A0Only if we're going t= o > start giving users dev-manager alternatives in the handbook does it > become an issue, and while that would be nice, I don't think it's > necessary for this change. Yes, I did not think that through. If kmod gets pulled in via udev in the stage3 tarballs, the docs are fine as-is.