From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 970C3138334 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16615E0968; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B43B5E0955 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f171.google.com (mail-io0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 864F8335C8D for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f171.google.com with SMTP id v14-v6so7706012iob.4 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DqmmRKG/Q03UfizHlRCIOjcPvlvaaBmM7veCfNljsqeupZvXes By68BTjd3P43xINl9xkeN+g9l4Mfbp3/UQer40s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYsKC3yLY8oVaStyIrBLMZvZS7hhERYHpk882gwB570BuRnxx4+3ysTJYE5p+BiIbs1iU1tuHk7JxzbAf7MhUc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:d819:: with SMTP id y25-v6mr2052941iob.247.1535130545523; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180820143433.27556-1-mgorny@gentoo.org> <20180820145937.10739-1-mgorny@gentoo.org> <1534833968.953.2.camel@gentoo.org> <153FDB15-8D96-4065-AB16-885D1A5DE87E@gentoo.org> <3d0204bf-509b-5cf9-251d-9a689b32db26@gentoo.org> <20180825012306.4a9b26a6@katipo2.lan> <20180825024543.3d47a160@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: <20180825024543.3d47a160@katipo2.lan> From: Mike Gilbert Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:08:54 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: Improve description of USE=test To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: c3691ac0-d1e3-4e78-97dc-a388402babb6 X-Archives-Hash: eded873cbfc920ac0b3428008155b2eb On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:45 AM Kent Fredric wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:27:01 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > If you want to define behavior that can be relied upon in ebuilds, it > > should be specified in PMS. PMS does not define any meaning for the > > "test" USE flag. > > We should eschew idealism about how the world *should* behave, and avoid > making portage a steaming garbage heap in order to comply with a > terrible PMS specification of a heavily used feature. Portage still works just fine for most people who would enable FEATURES=test. Stop exaggerating.