From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D80A8138334 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 03:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71AA6E0805; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 03:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03365E07FA for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 03:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f54.google.com (mail-io1-f54.google.com [209.85.166.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D54C434AC9A for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 03:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f54.google.com with SMTP id j4so9625980iog.11 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 20:45:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXvfTzTLxm4S1gvzgvM+jofhFVzPkABgqfdwQ0RA322OqbQW06X wM3YS+OBOR6MPtTX7ZN66dHPtZgknCWzqfJvGZM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyhPcEEbvyzmNQqVkQdg7pT3qE97xxWL5RwTU5mkuy5gWtGMboS+gcIjFW2j1MzH5av2pIymD15KDnrZpRyJUs= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:9b12:: with SMTP id j18mr7915494iok.54.1567741519970; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 20:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1567619929.63486fef43c2e0dee3b4128db18fd1a6b4bf9381.tupone@gentoo> <6221fceb9ac4f3451a3a43e39141102f489a830d.camel@gentoo.org> <1860939b-1751-061d-c593-59deb20f05e7@gentoo.org> <7dd9f947-b3b1-a685-29df-0a59a19ebcbe@gentoo.org> <2f49bf393b04f1b514817317c2ea12f8e8e586df.camel@gentoo.org> <20190906080816.7cba3acf@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: From: Mike Gilbert Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 23:45:08 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/ To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 65cc74ca-8587-4b51-b3a1-1e5a48b489cd X-Archives-Hash: 96fa20c4e2b997aa6ff8d8483aab1e7b On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:47 PM Thomas Deutschmann wrote= : > > On 2019-09-05 22:16, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > >> But as per the way the dev manual is written, he arguably *is* > >> following policy. > >> > >> Stop taking the line of assuming he's trying to be belligerent. > > > > He says explicitly that he is against fixing devmanual because he likes > > the way he can abuse it right now. > > You are the only one adding _abuse_ here. Stop that, thanks. When I > replied to your mail I was just asking... nothing more. I don't > understand why you are reading so much into it. The devmanual o clearly indicates that an email to gentoo-dev is strongly preferred. I don't see any reason why tupone could not have done this. You seem to be trying to take this opportunity to prove some loosely related point. > But yes, I like the current exception for "per-package" eclasses like I > am concerned that a review requirement would cause a significant delay: > > Back to my example, imagine we would move pkg_config to new mysql > eclass. If we would bump mysql/percona-server/mariadb package and will > receive bug reports later because upstream changed something causing > pkg_config to fail we would now have to propose a patch, wait 48 > hours... i.e. package would be broken for ~72 hours just because of a > policy I don't reject in general (yes, I like reviews) but where I think > exceptions must be possible. This argument is stupid. If you need to push a critical bug fix, then do it. Nobody will fault you for it. This clearly does not apply to ada.eclass.