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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:27:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: Improve description of USE=test
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:23 AM Kent Fredric <kentnl@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:29:29 -0400
> Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> > Setting RESTRICT="!test? ( test )" is generally sufficient.
>
> But that would require setting that virtually *everything* that has
> both tests, and required dependencies for tests.
>
> Which, in my experience, is practically everything with tests.
>
> To the point it seems like that should be the *default* mechanic, not a
> requirement that everyone pay not to have a randomly broken package.
If you want to define behavior that can be relied upon in ebuilds, it
should be specified in PMS. PMS does not define any meaning for the
"test" USE flag.