From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478B2138334 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F6DBE09B6; Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0191EE0996 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f53.google.com (mail-io1-f53.google.com [209.85.166.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 782EC335D07 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f53.google.com with SMTP id x26-v6so3856902iog.11 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 07:08:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiRdU80ZtyFTNT1rmw5nCafiK96b4z0YZZ767ZtiG+/skPdD078 CFTo5K+yLmzd7BNU1GXSG0HN9Wjhwvgzxd9hYsw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63UiFjkv80XoFFpZ5LxJTF6arEX22Od93D6kXlFtYGtq68rC5uJPtiLtwU9e/arfCir11avzJhO8UdQDNdek4s= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:ea0f:: with SMTP id m15-v6mr2813091ioc.18.1538402894460; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 07:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180930225035.25434-1-floppym@gentoo.org> <20180930225035.25434-3-floppym@gentoo.org> <2e0b1447-d520-c4cc-61f6-7a1ad1761684@gentoo.org> <1538396835.9799.2.camel@gentoo.org> <20181001141724.58e98ebe@red.yakaraplc.local> In-Reply-To: <20181001141724.58e98ebe@red.yakaraplc.local> From: Mike Gilbert Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 10:08:03 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH 3/5] xdg.eclass: move deps to RDEPEND To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 00da456d-6baa-4703-9220-d2ce52dfc9e2 X-Archives-Hash: 0bfc4de70584138a5c99034e531360cd On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 9:17 AM James Le Cuirot wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 09:00:38 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > The reason why it is in DEPEND though is that none of these tools > > > are required at runtime. They are needed at postinst and postrm > > > stages which afaik makes them DEPEND on EAPI previous to EAPI 7 and > > > BDEPEND in EAPI 7 if I'm not mistaken. > > > > This is incorrect; programs executed in pkg_postinst/pkg_postrm should > > be present in RDEPEND. Consider a binpkg installation, which would > > ignore DEPEND, but would still execute pkg_postinst. > > > > Another option: since xdg-utils.eclass functions will politely skip > > the updates if the tools are missing, we could just drop the > > dependency from xdg.eclass entirely and wait for the tools to get > > installed through some indirect means. > > Unfortunately there is no correct answer here as we didn't consider > this scenario when planning EAPI 7. We should have looked at Exherbo, > which does make this important distinction. There is a bug report open. > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/660306 > > What I will say is that we should not attempt to executing anything > from within ROOT or SYSROOT unless it known to be interpreted > (e.g. a shell script) and there is no feasible alternative. I add that > exclusion clause because I have been forced to do this with > python-config. That's a good point; both update-desktop-database and update-mime-database are compiled binaries, and should probably be executed from BROOT (/) instead. I'll revise my patchset.