From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-85735-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 662CC138334 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 14:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36325E096C; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 14:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D931BE0965 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 14:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-f48.google.com (mail-it0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95B1F335D3C for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 14:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f48.google.com with SMTP id x79-v6so5116811ita.1 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 07:30:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEIv/SBb9j62XJUn0IR8/O9ia6mcOrrKavv6QQ1f8wAVDj9dwPa cywvpMoiu1AxrV5K4mQNPt6d99C7O5KbsIGYJuw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPzKz2fNNDb+qidS8qWCt0ewAh3Qq5xdALQAf+cIUVikPGsLuzfyPJ8OwEUyPU4RVv30VCyozgunWFV3ZzTqTt4= X-Received: by 2002:a02:41d8:: with SMTP id n85-v6mr48878018jad.108.1534948244508; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 07:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5cc35530-3d96-1a0f-b484-73ea3d58bed5@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <5cc35530-3d96-1a0f-b484-73ea3d58bed5@gentoo.org> From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:30:33 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: <CAJ0EP40RxR9yUG36a4O9GhbKhPLs9UyBB-AZrrWQ5Pv2P3EbrA@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAJ0EP40RxR9yUG36a4O9GhbKhPLs9UyBB-AZrrWQ5Pv2P3EbrA@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo i486 support To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> Cc: x86@gentoo.org, release@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: d7585713-2cae-40c7-825a-8f77ea81ee29 X-Archives-Hash: b915664b2754200cee32cae7cc4a2d10 On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:26 AM Ben Kohler <bkohler@gentoo.org> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > For some time now, we've been shipping broken i486 stage3s that do not > run on pre-i686 hardware [1]. Due to a change in catalyst [2], we no > longer set CXXFLAGS in the default make.conf, so the x86 profiles' (imho > wrong/broken) defaults [3] kick in. > > I'd like to get this fixed, and I see 3 possible solutions, listed in > order of my own preference: > > 1) Adjust x86 profile defaults to drop the problematic -march=i686. > This would be more in line with amd64 profiles (et al), which set no > -march value so it can run on any hardware for this arch. Based on a quick test, running i686-pc-linuc-gnu-gcc without passing -march seems to be equivalent to passing "-mtune=generic -march=i686". So, you'll get code that will only run on i686, but has "generic" tuning (whatever that means). I don't think that will make a noticeable difference on user systems. Most Gentoo people probably override this to some more specific CPU model via CFLAGS in make.conf anyway. So +1 from me on removing -march=i686 from the x86 arch profile.