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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:25:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ0EP40PjWWQxYtjnBoP7DXA6rBCztKEiA9kM_4raLrG-YOemA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130116151914.GA90907@kaini.schwarzvogel.de>

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Greg KH wrote:
>> So anyone who relies on network names right now to be deterministic, and
>> you have more than one network device in your system, should seriously
>> reconsider how they are naming their devices, as it will not work if you
>> only rely on the kernel.
>>
>> You might have gotten "lucky" for the past 5 years, but you never know
>> what could happen if you reboot today.  Seriously, I've seen it happen
>> all the time.
>
> It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine
> with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I
> _know_ that there will be eth0 and only that.
>
> OTOH, maybe it's a good idea to make admins do "ip link sh" and
> "ip addr sh" every time they examine a new computer -- it goes a
> long way to root out wrong assumptions in that field.
>
> Regards,
> Tobias
>
> PS: Do not use ifconfig. Ever. Except if there's no iproute. And
> then you should only use ifconfig to enable downloading of
> iproute :)
>

I would actually like to see iproute2 added to the system set.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-16 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-09 22:13 [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names William Hubbs
2013-01-09 22:59 ` Christopher Head
2013-01-10  0:13   ` William Hubbs
2013-01-10  0:46     ` Christopher Head
2013-01-12  2:11       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-01-12 17:55         ` Alec Warner
2013-01-12 18:03         ` William Hubbs
2013-01-14  6:04           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-01-14 14:39             ` Peter Stuge
2013-01-14 18:35               ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-15  9:29                 ` Debian patching KDE to use /etc for configuration (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names) Samuli Suominen
2013-01-15 10:25                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-15 11:00                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-01-15 16:19                       ` Alec Warner
2013-01-15 19:43                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-15 20:19                           ` Maxim Kammerer
2013-01-15 21:26                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-16  6:33                           ` Alec Warner
2013-01-16 20:34                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-17  5:36                               ` Alec Warner
2013-01-17 15:02                                 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Debian patching KDE to use /etc for configuration Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-17 15:21                                   ` Maxim Kammerer
2013-01-17 18:01                                 ` Debian patching KDE to use /etc for configuration (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names) Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-14 19:06             ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names William Hubbs
2013-01-15  0:25               ` Peter Stuge
2013-01-15  2:48                 ` William Hubbs
2013-01-15 13:35                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-13 22:24         ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-14  6:17           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-01-10  4:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2013-01-10  4:33   ` Rich Freeman
2013-01-10  4:36     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-01-10  6:15     ` William Hubbs
2013-01-10  9:22   ` [gentoo-dev] " Nuno J. Silva
2013-01-10 14:01   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-15  8:42 ` Michael Weber
2013-01-15 14:03   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-15  9:16 ` Michael Weber
2013-01-15 13:58   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-15 18:58     ` Greg KH
2013-01-15 23:08       ` Rich Freeman
2013-01-16  3:42         ` Peter Stuge
2013-01-16 11:36           ` Rich Freeman
2013-01-17  2:49             ` Greg KH
2013-01-17  2:55               ` Rich Freeman
2013-01-17 14:51                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-21 13:50                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-01-17  8:48               ` Samuli Suominen
2013-01-16 15:19       ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-01-16 16:25         ` Mike Gilbert [this message]
2013-01-16 16:37           ` vivo75
2013-01-16 16:38           ` Michael Weber
2013-01-17 16:48         ` Peter Stuge
2013-01-17 18:44           ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-01-17 22:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-01-18 12:24 ` vivo75
2013-01-18 13:33   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-18 14:54     ` William Hubbs
2013-01-18 15:07       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-01-19 18:20         ` William Hubbs
2013-01-19 23:13           ` Francesco Riosa

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