From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 786FD138239 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A8EEE0E0D; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34155E0DFF for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-f43.google.com (mail-it0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF2FB335D2A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f43.google.com with SMTP id h1-v6so30816974itj.4 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DvvtCdRiGgXpYNyxVS6149nfR59TfUaNd05Ttp+cx0Tw4FCvW5 QaKVCGBGB2NhhPxK4w4XKvyZJQ99SffaiAY/RcY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdb3gUIAdw80IiZ8ie9Co7v0S1gPk1hDSy8bQLecpOWhNe8bbh/uFfWyoah6bWcBsb0/re6BUNjKlVZh4LNTKKo= X-Received: by 2002:a24:b701:: with SMTP id h1-v6mr20976866itf.131.1536616737739; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180909143221.21d784d02f51623e8c57c545@gentoo.org> <1536510660.863.9.camel@gentoo.org> <20180910074539.GA6512@baraddur.perfinion.com> <0d8b7f02-9c38-969c-413b-69d4dee6ca89@gentoo.org> <32027432-a5d2-9e63-2eac-70e62f52d242@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: From: Mike Gilbert Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:58:45 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: e926c44a-ca12-408d-9a14-cce4385f8849 X-Archives-Hash: 2cb3002224f55613926715d0361f8f3c On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 5:31 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 5:01 PM Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:56 PM Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > > > > > On 9/10/18 10:51 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > > > > Consider again the bug that started this. The maintainer had not built > > > > this configuration. None of the arch teams had built this > > > > configuration until I did for the last architecture Cc'd. The patch > > > > committed doesn't change anything installed on the system, if not for > > > > Werror preventing the code from building. > > > > > > one way to look at it though, is that it is a valuable upstream > > > contribution that this configuration produces the error, so Gentoo is > > > contributing to upstream development because of it. > > > > As an end user of Gentoo, I may not care about "contributing to > > upstream"; I just want the software to compile and install. > > > > For more critical packages (like the example of zfs) whether it > compiles and installs isn't 1/10th as important as whether it eats my > data... I was clearly responding to the "contributing upstream" argument, which has nothing to do with eating data.