From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A26B138334 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 15:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94AC9E0900; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 15:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15073E08EC for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 15:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f176.google.com (mail-io0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E831F335D7D for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 15:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f176.google.com with SMTP id y10-v6so787824ioa.10 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 08:03:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFlN+ncpFdie+ZWhnzhB9itWlByG/0ph9VeVef8NWLL33AuyjLd m8b1XwuFpjk/B1IlSXPzXqXZ7ZvIvTqeUpuDWqM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpf/EzriTzLX7R8vTeic7WCPx55ZBkMZGgRP2OVdWqG7Pj7SpmjoOmxTimxAGzK8Sxk151BJBmqtL014bz+HX70= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:ec08:: with SMTP id c8-v6mr10467200ioh.18.1532358225924; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 08:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1807933.pnnQJkiJvf@porto> In-Reply-To: <1807933.pnnQJkiJvf@porto> From: Mike Gilbert Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 11:03:34 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles To: Gentoo Dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: b5371b2e-f0c4-4f41-8def-69965b0d9fba X-Archives-Hash: 2ee9a7cb5ed117cb9bbe941ecbd1b2d7 On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:47 AM Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018, 23:51:17 CEST schrieb Ben Kohler: > > Hello, > > > > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in > > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already > > enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few packages > > > > Any objections to this idea? > > We removed the dedicated "server profiles" and told everyone > "Don't ever use -*"; if you want to have a sane minimal set of features use > the base profile as e.g. default/linux/amd64/17.0". > > If with USE=udev this profile still fulfills the definition of "sane minimal > set of features", then it's fine. > > (Keep in mind, we have all sorts of people out there running gentoo not only > on desktops or beefy servers.) > > Otherwise it should stay in desktop profile. USE="udev" is a sane default for anything that will be running on real or emulated hardware. It might not be necessary for containers, which don't do any hardware management.