From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AAB13897C for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4DEBE0687; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD7CEE0652 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 12so1970636wgh.5 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:45:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dee.su; s=google; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bENm6f2cJHEFlZdFaIjwg3bzMaio8Lj1jYSoXH5IT8w=; b=hSd1TvhoQXsaKPiivUKv2iDr4kebUfwwV24i92S5Wz6HTl46LXfK90nyzZmXZNsLmS zrrN4IoVyGnjr0939nsLofDQ1hjDOnImzcROUxnxT8zVvhCFD8Lk2zD+Jb9oFYoSIS0a MfZ+csI5E+K3F3M+AQTctbh1FhCYpcBNpmV3M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=bENm6f2cJHEFlZdFaIjwg3bzMaio8Lj1jYSoXH5IT8w=; b=hBe3xmnWuudfAukDZoIFrpMUb+XPjzh+gwlOfB5Pjk3O8+iJKnTBqoakilig5azTnj 1J0q9N2myKe2WSomg1OyufXWDPkjkL3kKd+eF5wvFlhpNSttLFaQwHB867PZZgyyMmKr x0w1yl5MuaEXiDHyQ0P0yXGxuQXaGbLK0A9V3F5/n/oRplMl9B5Uw47W/LaTttYyE8cx 9rmCJuw8l6TbMcGLd6fvYJdKslUtCHW2cLUWyjzCxWH5xdrfWN/crJRw39wXEPp7HBWT lA88k6C5w9qedxc/jCG3TbIjRTIcnLP23FC95qp4XnLq2ZcWFqZ5BTmbULFqp8ZHUqco BCFQ== X-Received: by 10.180.97.233 with SMTP id ed9mr12004481wib.32.1360532735348; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:45:35 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.185.68 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:45:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <511805F0.9070101@gentoo.org> References: <5117560B.3090709@gentoo.org> <511805F0.9070101@gentoo.org> From: Maxim Kammerer Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlxaebfoXPrT6P0c/771TYe2sV7NRaAkPtprrUXDN7vyAhGxXlvd58/FmFb24yY6UEybFw1 X-Archives-Salt: ef2cbbfe-fc25-42f0-a044-e4448dc773b2 X-Archives-Hash: ec8d08cd14d5ec8d1ca738e6848919de On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > Honestly while I agree this could have been handled a little more > carefully we all win by having ONE place for firmware. The firmware > package is like 20MB, if you don't have that much free harddrive space > then you can use the savedconfig option to tune for just your hardware It's ~45MB when extracted, but the issue is not just with space, since on a "proper" Gentoo system firmware is about the only thing that's not compiled from source (besides less significant stuff like fonts, many of which can be optionally compiled anyway). Combined with various less-than-free licenses, installing one huge blob of firmware is problematic for many users, also from a security point of view. > Having 300 -firmware packages is silly. I agree, but think that the process can be more user-friendly than a savedconfig =97 perhaps a variable as was suggested already. --=20 Maxim Kammerer Libert=E9 Linux: http://dee.su/liberte