From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 061DD138239 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 13:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B8BCE0898; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 13:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A53FE07FA for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 13:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi1-f175.google.com (mail-oi1-f175.google.com [209.85.167.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zx2c4) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7538834D7FF for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 13:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi1-f175.google.com with SMTP id a124so2741483oii.13 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 05:59:47 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXMVc766FkfhGzxc/+/6oL1KGNozMa06miEdfAltXGax+8oiv5A XlzD/dLqCv/FCMu7LEpW6AbbYyEwtAqADMbs1RE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyW/Juzsm/NZU9MWiBLfkHfWQFfNQ3M2NY0K8j5fBmmKdDqCb/Ps9FZCYHJUeLj0OR/BjcBq3+Rtd2bVJBsbyg= X-Received: by 2002:aca:5cc1:: with SMTP id q184mr5315122oib.122.1575554385448; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 05:59:45 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 14:59:34 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Aaron Bauman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 4f4d1c11-0921-4125-9214-d2c80a878128 X-Archives-Hash: 106bd26f0d533c623be055059b3588dc On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 2:56 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:42 AM Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Aaron has marked tons of important and useful Python 2.7 packages for removal: > > > > Can we not do this prematurely? I've revered this commit until such a > > thing an be appropriately agreed upon. > > Might make sense to wait to mask them at the same time as masking > python 2.7 itself? Maybe file a bug if not already done to make > maintainers aware that this is coming? > > I assume the python team is the one deciding when python 2.7 has to go > (after all, who else is going to maintain it?). The fact that this is > about a month off did come up in another recent thread but I don't > think it was intended as a formal announcement. It's one thing to mask python libraries in general. If gentoo isn't going to support 2.7, then those libraries don't make sense to keep around. It's quite another to mask random packages that have USE flags to optionally support whatever python 2.7 library. If you're going to last rites these, talk with the maintainer first, and only then, send emails one at a time. Doing that en masse isn't appropriate. On another topic, I'd prefer for python 2.7 not to be removed from gentoo. Tons of code still uses it.