From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C67D1395E1 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3391FE0C1C; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D90DAE0BDF for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf0-f46.google.com (mail-lf0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zx2c4) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ACE8C340F27 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf0-f46.google.com with SMTP id c13so33729264lfg.0 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvf2Kk8JiwVERPUqxjQQY0OFiz4mg3+cSrcdeEAoG/iFH+amxEN7IT5ULxafBB+4R0HsXITFXjRR7lXvVA== X-Received: by 10.25.203.139 with SMTP id b133mr4622403lfg.169.1478168201519; Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.193.141 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 03:16:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:16:40 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: b944d926-78bc-4643-ab13-695a1600e156 X-Archives-Hash: d20759cc5c899c95dd54958867993258 Hey guys, Every other day on IRC, I see people arguing about touching each others packages, despite our policies against it. (Sometimes it's even me who's doing the touching!) My instinctive reaction is always, "can't everybody calm down and be happy somebody is doing your work for you?" The answer to this question is, of course, that it depends who the developer is and how competent you are. So, nothing new here. I don't want to bikeshed about it. Business as usual. Perhaps we can come up with something more formal for solving this, that works a bit better than my package-policy.txt idea (see other thread). A few have proposed in the past adding this kind of "attitude information" to metadata.xml. Does anybody have any concrete proposals for what this would look like? Thanks, Jason -- Jason A. Donenfeld Gentoo Linux Security & Infrastructure zx2c4@gentoo.org www.zx2c4.com zx2c4.com/keys/A28BEDE08F1744E16037514806C4536755758000.asc