From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RPNL4-0003ro-1S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:50:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED28321C0E7; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFF421C0D7 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27so2191429wwf.10 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:49:23 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.12.82 with SMTP id 60mr236507wey.97.1321141762050; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:49:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: rafael@rafaelmartins.eng.br Received: by 10.216.88.130 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:49:21 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [189.120.105.15] In-Reply-To: <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBD42EE.4060104@gentoo.org> <4EBEF208.5060500@gentoo.org> <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:49:21 -0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZVRJJEcMPMJTU7Mh8wWjzFi_cWw Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default From: Rafael Goncalves Martins To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: cfb9e9f8-b058-45e2-a65d-7301097dd52d X-Archives-Hash: 2aab23c26f2d53ba241c129261848f60 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote: >> >> good point. =C2=A0we don't want to punish old portage users. =C2=A0le= t's enable it >> >> by default in portage itself then. =C2=A0just add `elog` output to th= e >> >> portage ebuild to inform users of the change ? =C2=A0or do we want a = news >> >> item ? >> >> >> >> what's the flag to negate the default ? =C2=A0--no-quiet-build ? ;) >> > >> > It's --quiet-build=3Dn. I've gone ahead and enabled it for release in >> > portage-2.1.10.34: >> > >> > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/portage.git;a=3Dcommit= ;h=3D0cc1 >> > 74b6fc28feb26ea151d76f794e0ff2c2fa39 >> >> Lots of people in #gentoo are unhappy with it. > > most changes people will be unhappy with because it's different > >> Most devs will be unhappy as it makes it harder to view the log while >> building. > > devs are not the normal case. =C2=A0it's trivial to have them use --quiet= -build=3Dn > in their default emerge opts. Then why not you and the other 2 guys that approved this change here (and are the only people I saw approving this, TBH), add --quiet-build=3Dy to your default emerge opts and avoid this kind of change? Regards, --=20 Rafael Goncalves Martins Gentoo Linux developer http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/