From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDC41381F3 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB43AE09F5; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2519E09DD for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k13so23278707iea.4 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=7QfSfpbwP8XDXnJRx1c4/8kaABOEuYLsQwsShO7mtSw=; b=H7pmyIWnZTSJul//PtYBoCtzibsrcm0OlhBj/7if7H9c4mYzFUtKxTlvvz/p7N/6C2 3+aFqwcIhnAPp4ozqr6SOY4BrMcFplEcl2CZRMTgmSczZj4Rzvln1s17tg3BlKpq2kKa aXkHAgVgk926/wRtargnuNxX4lvqBJKFKb3KsaQM1y0aQE5ejsKLFQoJhpdIMKKHd76j ke4MGXT3D1ktXTYatjabc+cN0soc55kYbbmoBS/wpSl+yubuU7wrn3Ulsptw88fTuZTT XK2RLljDjdVIEI84DCNwT9gv0TWhNZoVbkHXXyGl7JQY6e8r0Unxx9whc0BKoKylHYDn 2m7Q== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.16.76 with SMTP id e12mr4046418igd.47.1372025054861; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.42.8 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:04:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 23:04:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts From: =?UTF-8?Q?Diego_Elio_Petten=C3=B2?= To: "gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc15d604c19b04dfd97a03 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmJuJ7ChjCqFYQ3yTNPWBJuhx0ptMH8PrwmStFqWtJzOF7sh4NQkF0Pui9s28h4KfOFME6F X-Archives-Salt: 28dc1822-4449-4b7f-b7b2-c10b13c8db61 X-Archives-Hash: 1d3d5ac18e97ef28ec89fcad8ac24178 --047d7bdc15d604c19b04dfd97a03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please, let's not try to make this something either mandated or recommended= . I have a personal dislike for video tutorials which tend to take half an hour to explain something you'd read in ten minutes. Besides, not all of the developers speak English well enough =E2=80=94 heck some people have tr= ouble writing and understanding written English, let alone spoken. Honestly, I couldn't get over reading a couple of paragraph here, because the premise itself is too much to bear for me, sorry. Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 =E2=80=94 Flameeyes flameeyes@flameeyes.eu =E2=80=94 http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Pavlos Ratis wrote= : > Hello all, > > Everyday we talk to each other about different kind of things related > to Gentoo. IRC and MLs are the primary way of our communication, but > this is only a text-based communication. I think sometimes it would be > better to escape from that. > > That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts will > be Google+ video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers > independent of a team. The main goal is to have the teams introduce > themselves and discuss about different issues in their Gentoo-related > projects. > > It's a very interactive way of communication and it helps team bonding. T= he > first Hangout of a team would be good to include a short introduction of > the > team (what,who,where). Also team members will introduce themselves. > Then team should start talking about how a user can contribute and > what is going on in the team. Tips and tricks would be a plus and very > useful to users. Finally, users will be able to ask > questions at G+ and then team members will try to answer the most of > these questions. > > Future team meetings could be also held via video hangouts or interviews > like > dabbot's doing in his personal blog. In addition, developers > independent of the team could organize a hangout along with other > developers to discuss different topics or to have a > Gentoo-related chit-chat. Users could also participate into this video > calls. > > It's very easy to decide the host of the talk. Maybe the team leads > would be proper > for that or someone from the PR. One of the major issues is the > difference in timezone and the workload of each developer. However, I > think it would be great to find 1 hour to > participate. Teams could use a site like http://doodle.com to organize > the Hangout and find an hour that fit to their schedule. > > Except from a camera and a microphone requirement is a Google account and > www-client/google-talkplugin package which is already in the tree. > > It would be great to have teams introduce themselves and inform users in = a > more interactive way how to contribute and answer their questions. Finall= y > as > I said different other topics could be covered in this calls. > > All these video calls will be archived to a public Gentoo account in > Youtube. > > I am looking forward to your feedback, your comments and of course for th= e > first team that will create a video Hangout!! :) > > That's all folks, thanks for your time. > > Pavlos > > --047d7bdc15d604c19b04dfd97a03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please, let's not try to make this something either ma= ndated or recommended.

I have a personal dislike f= or video tutorials which tend to take half an hour to explain something you= 'd read in ten minutes. Besides, not all of the developers speak Englis= h well enough =E2=80=94 heck some people have trouble writing and understan= ding written English, let alone spoken.

Honestly, I couldn't get over reading a= couple of paragraph here, because the premise itself is too much to bear f= or me, sorry.


Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 =E2=80=94 Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.= eu =E2=80=94 ht= tp://blog.flameeyes.eu/


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Pavlos= Ratis <dastergon@gentoo.org> wrote:
Hello all,

Everyday we talk to each other about different kind of things related
to Gentoo. IRC and MLs are the primary way of our communication, but
this is only a text-based communication. I think sometimes it would be
better to escape from that.

That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts wil= l
be Google+ =C2=A0video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers independent of a team. The main goal is to have the teams introduce
themselves and discuss about different issues in their Gentoo-related
projects.

It's a very interactive way of communication and it helps team bonding.= The
first Hangout of a team would be good to include a short introduction of th= e
team (what,who,where). Also team members will introduce themselves.
Then team should start talking about how a user can contribute and
what is going on in the team. Tips and tricks would be a plus and very
useful to users. Finally, users will be able to ask
questions at G+ and then team members will try to answer the most of
these questions.

Future team meetings could be also held via video hangouts or interviews li= ke
dabbot's doing in his personal blog. In addition, developers
independent of the team could organize a hangout along with other
developers to discuss different topics or to have a
Gentoo-related chit-chat. Users could also participate into this video call= s.

It's very easy to decide the host of the talk. Maybe the team leads
would be proper
for that or someone from the PR. One of the major issues is the
difference in timezone and the workload of each developer. However, I
think it would be great to find 1 hour to
participate. Teams could use a site like http://doodle.com to organize
the Hangout and find an hour that fit to their schedule.

Except from a camera and a microphone requirement is a Google account and www-client/google-talkplugin package which is already in the tree.

It would be great to have teams introduce themselves and inform users in a<= br> more interactive way how to contribute and answer their questions. Finally = as
I said different other topics could be covered in this calls.

All these video calls will be archived to a public Gentoo account in Youtub= e.

I am looking forward to your feedback, your comments and of course for the<= br> first team that will create a video Hangout!! :)

That's all folks, thanks for your time.

Pavlos


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