From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130A71381F3 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA2C7E09B5; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E774FE0967 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id aq17so22650158iec.8 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:47:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=a6XpvV0yq+GEbpi8qcPDFZ7I6eqMvlPu4MQLH1flRRQ=; b=G+NHFTcKMNnmU6ReQ4j5mMXJnnKWdS9W0rR7oDd8H9uaOmT4VYCIKGWbx+cJyjqo/h mGW5qJlPJz52OzRukwkVp7fjCnxF3Y5YdDPDzUUkAVmazQquvMYSPsrab4wJ769kWfxS 6n08rAkaMQRs1smIPxa/QGuP6whcMCalH7vruoDi/fvWHjfblmUJxWKgCBd89/ByCnF5 qw73x/kL+HCf3Ap7THNYKBpGHyXDbh49egg4+rnqMmp7kQn8WyTS5XBxXQ3lGN4LpHqS 6xonfiTQsFGMSwX4gvV5edc1uIkUZt8gI6FY+8fweTN+ab8YNkUlLr8Fwh8cO8GWVhNp smtQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.41.210 with SMTP id q18mr11237896ice.13.1372070862092; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.42.8 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:47:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1372070234.19250.6.camel@gilles.gandi.net> References: <20130613070520.5e919998@gentoo.org> <51C34B21.2040504@gentoo.org> <1372064040.19250.3.camel@gilles.gandi.net> <51C80BDE.90600@gentoo.org> <1372070234.19250.6.camel@gilles.gandi.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:47:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce global dmalloc USE flag? From: =?UTF-8?Q?Diego_Elio_Petten=C3=B2?= To: "gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3bda57945504dfe424f4 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnySpYy+P1g6Slcze3aA54ndC79mKcSQM00nUDVTutpYs5YO0hM8FqPKmdKXGw7QzrPPKtC X-Archives-Salt: f8e00ebe-aa1d-421c-be66-b6c4def3abfd X-Archives-Hash: cd875b8294fc07b619170132f563e144 --20cf301d3bda57945504dfe424f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wro= te: > To be clear, the justification of USE=3Ddmalloc being separated from > USE=3Ddebug is that it is so "intrusive" than anyone excepts a developer > would find it too cumbersome to attempt to debug a problem with the > application ? > I think we already got a number of packages where that holds true. It was one of the reasons why I did my best to make sure people understand that debug symbols and nostrip should *not* be conflated with USE=3Ddebug. If I'm not mistaken, app-editors/nano[debug] is hardly usable. Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 =E2=80=94 Flameeyes flameeyes@flameeyes.eu =E2=80=94 http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ --20cf301d3bda57945504dfe424f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue &= lt;eva@gentoo.org&g= t; wrote:
T= o be clear, the justification of USE=3Ddmalloc being separated from
USE=3Ddebug is that it is so "intrusive" than anyone excepts a de= veloper
would find it too cumbersome to attempt to debug a problem with the
application ?

I think we already got a number o= f packages where that holds true. It was one of the reasons why I did my be= st to make sure people understand that debug symbols and nostrip should *no= t* be conflated with USE=3Ddebug.

If I'm = not mistaken, app-editors/nano[debug] is hardly usable.

Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 =E2=80=94 Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu =E2=80=94= http://blog.flamee= yes.eu/
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