From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EC959CAF for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 00:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2799221C133; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 00:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-f50.google.com (mail-vk0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DB8021C0D9 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 00:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id k1so175976107vkb.0 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 17:38:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=TRPG9/SvYrjXCI5xh8D3R4KRdZxGa5kj2z+kW8UxPJA=; b=dA6/6wRxJdDyU5L6CbGODEWMSqUg5IwU5zv5cO0kvnh8TThA/frLOCAct/0+/KZaks MSRKBVi7wbjvoarYYvJHKQQIx0Z18p8zgBusfo4/WEteW/knxQNlNcD3l8B0YZ1F0Ai6 tkY4w5GcGUEowCmJUa0fycsPKYt4DG4Sf2yaKxzUVrj/M8BFlKyZ8YUD7KfFi4N1SqYX 5X/6QsRSuuRJy11ssb18AQrIqdfyhl1r/+XV3ujeEPyMbSvCgf9FNbduzipHTKj7IfLH jJbg1jcDx7Adjdl7rOuc7qnZWkmU2Ifpg/Ito/Uw7W9jfHkNIYgJ1Z5v9CG9WXwQWc9F mjGA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=TRPG9/SvYrjXCI5xh8D3R4KRdZxGa5kj2z+kW8UxPJA=; b=Cc2Jf8nes5OGOjmu2ZZvOI+nviZ2KMtPFlZMLz/Ecsszd8dJPQ+/YV/SkBXbd3adjj BXHFhKwgWaHW1InEyNITLRaUfEIwLpra7jyMJa4I1va4qo03vM7KoguXT16w8ekC+bOw 67zO3Y9mzZDNED6PO+G6VI9fYR/cP3US5WU3/XUe+ZVA0YBJjuOwHji136kk9fM5CFyG izzvR7ZKcNeM4wC7Zz9Ts6ClR7nOVnGmPQFymZla2oy0djC6HI1jbe/6EIJV5XKWoQkr Dx3xIiDEWpHXjcVWaRWPOVwDru3VQZiiuSeD574ITDnHYcbac83/3jD7Odn+PFjy8Ukf soag== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLyL8eeFFmB6wo4MGGV1SiiPOPyBROzZQGLWR4Mt4K4tDeweF6YYK3dc1v9myG8pPObvgGHPYF+k9UACQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.159.38.115 with SMTP id 106mr7899679uag.83.1460248723437; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 17:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.1.23 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 17:38:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160409225049.GA1276@ca.inter.net> References: <57087E0D.3090502@gmail.com> <20160409053230.GA16529@waltdnes.org> <20160409160938.GA17530@waltdnes.org> <20160409194943.GA1271@ca.inter.net> <20160409225049.GA1276@ca.inter.net> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 19:38:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge From: Gordon Pettey To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cf72e71bd15053016a677 X-Archives-Salt: 2ffd4f68-becc-4a55-897d-013fb85700b3 X-Archives-Hash: f4d34794e3c2d3f6f97834dddb93823a --001a113cf72e71bd15053016a677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 160409 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Philip Webb > wrote: > >> I've always used Lilo, which is simple + reliable : > >> I never see questions re it here, but there are many re Grub. > >> I do use recent hardware, a cutting-edge machine I built 6 mth ago . > >> When setting it up, I suppressed UEFI in the BIOS settings : > >> isn't that what anyone not running M$ would do ? > > I just disabled secure boot, although it's possible to use it with Linu= x. > > However, it would require to manually sign everything from boot loader > > to kernel modules, since Gentoo has no infrastructure to do that. > > I don't "supress" UEFI, since it's *obviously* so much better than BIOS > > and since bootctl (the program formerly known as gummiboot) > > it's incredible easy to use. You don't even notice it's there. > > Sorry, I meant "suppress secure boot". My mobo doesn't have UEFI. If you have "secure boot", you have UEFI. You can't have it without. --001a113cf72e71bd15053016a677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Apr 9, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
160409 Cane= k Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
>> I've always used Lilo, which is simple= + reliable :
>> I never see questions re it here, but there are many re Grub.
>> I do use recent hardware, a cutting-edge machine I built=C2=A0 6 m= th ago .
>> When setting it up, I suppressed UEFI in the BIOS settings :
>> isn't that what anyone not running M$ would do ?
> I just disabled secure boot, although it's possible to use it with= Linux.
> However, it would require to manually sign everything from boot= loader
> to kernel modules, since Gentoo has no infrastructure= to do that.
> I don't "supress" UEFI, since it= 's *obviously* so much better than BIOS
> and since bootctl (the program formerly known = as gummiboot)
> it's incredible easy to use. You don't even notice it's th= ere.

Sorry, I meant "suppress secure boot".=C2=A0 My mobo doesn= 't have UEFI.

If you have "secure = boot", you have UEFI. You can't have it without.
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