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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:44:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_noP_StrcKJrQ4B5irx+cB5w6zr9k35-PWVcjdXv96UPg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jm2q2o$4n7$1@dough.gmane.org>

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Steven J Long
<slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> As for the burden of ensuring that binaries installed to /{s,}bin don't link
> to libs in /usr, why not just automate a QA check for that, and let
> developers decide whether a fix is necessary? After all, core packages that
> do that even when configured with prefix and execprefix = /, aren't so
> portable, and Gentoo has always championed "doing the right thing" wrt
> helping upstream fix portability issues.

The only issue with that logic is that upstream is perfectly aware of
what they're doing already, and bugs are likely to be closed as
WONTFIX.  So, all the QA checks would do is ensure that we slowly
start maintaining forks of more and more packages.  Right now the
problem is probably manageable, but I'm not convinced it will stay
that way.  Once upstream developers consider all constraints to be
removed on their dependencies you could see a lot of stuff getting
pulled into root if you tried to enforce this rule.

In any case, it sounds like the directive is to keep limping along for
a while longer, and that makes sense anyway until docs/etc are
improved.  I agree with Ralph's suggestion that the newer initramfs
tools should be stabilized as well.

Rich



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-11 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20353.41193.129711.306663@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
2012-04-08 22:04 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012 Greg KH
2012-04-08 23:28   ` Rich Freeman
2012-04-09 18:09     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-09 19:20       ` Zac Medico
2012-04-11  2:28         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-11  4:09           ` Zac Medico
2012-04-11  5:18             ` William Hubbs
2012-04-11 16:10               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-28 21:09                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-04 16:36                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-05-04 16:47                     ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-04 17:24                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-11 14:13             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-11 19:57               ` Zac Medico
2012-04-22  2:43                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-22  2:53                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-04-22  5:28                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-22  6:00                       ` Mike Gilbert
2012-04-22  9:07                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-22  9:28                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-22 17:55                             ` Mike Gilbert
2012-04-22 18:13                               ` Zac Medico
2012-05-04 15:20                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-05-04 19:50                                   ` Zac Medico
2012-05-04 15:10                               ` Steven J Long
2012-04-22  9:11                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: " Steven J Long
2012-04-23  1:25                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2012-04-23  6:04                         ` Zac Medico
2012-04-23 14:29                           ` Walter Dnes
2012-04-23  6:30                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabian Groffen
2012-05-04 14:50                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Steven J Long
2012-05-05  1:05                           ` Greg KH
2012-05-08  1:40                             ` [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] Steven J Long
2012-05-08  2:09                               ` Richard Yao
2012-05-09 18:32                               ` Greg KH
2012-05-09 18:51                                 ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-09 22:36                                   ` Greg KH
2012-05-10  1:08                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2012-05-10  3:08                                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-10  4:34                                     ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-10 16:54                                       ` Olivier Crête
2012-05-14 18:48                                         ` Luca Barbato
2012-05-10 23:41                                       ` Alec Warner
2012-05-17  4:39                                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-05-10 11:44                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-05-10 14:39                                       ` Zac Medico
2012-05-12  0:39                                       ` Greg KH
2012-05-10 18:57                                     ` David Leverton
2012-05-10 19:22                                       ` Zac Medico
2012-05-10 19:30                                         ` David Leverton
2012-05-11  1:27                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-05-10 19:55                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2012-05-10 19:59                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-10 20:13                                       ` Michał Górny
2012-05-10 20:14                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-10 20:23                                           ` Michał Górny
2012-05-10 20:48                                     ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-11  0:59                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-05-11  2:53                                         ` Duncan
2012-05-13  2:24                                         ` Walter Dnes
     [not found]                                   ` <4bdd949a377d40eb85590870be440551@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2012-11-18  7:54                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Yao
2012-11-18  8:08                                       ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  8:10                                         ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  8:19                                           ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  8:19                                             ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  8:27                                             ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  8:38                                               ` Pacho Ramos
2012-11-18  8:21                                         ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18  8:49                                           ` Samuli Suominen
2012-11-18 11:11                                           ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-18 12:26                                             ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-18 16:49                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-11-18 15:04                                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:16                                               ` Samuli Suominen
2012-11-18 15:31                                                 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:32                                                 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-18 15:34                                                 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-18 15:42                                                   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:51                                                     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-19  8:20                                                       ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-19 12:14                                                         ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 13:08                                                         ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-18 15:50                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2012-11-19 13:07                                                 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Tightly-coupled core distro Steven J. Long
2012-11-19 16:32                                                   ` Alec Warner
2012-11-19 16:52                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 16:54                                                       ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-27  8:11                                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-11-19 17:43                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2012-11-19 18:16                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 18:33                                                       ` Peter Stuge
2012-11-18 15:43                                               ` [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-18 15:47                                                 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:54                                                   ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-18 16:00                                                     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 16:14                                                       ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-11-18 15:56                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2012-11-18 17:19                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-11-18 18:15                                                     ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-05-17  4:16                                 ` Steven J Long
2012-04-11 11:44           ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2012-04-11 15:09             ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012 Steven J Long
2012-04-11 16:55               ` Rich Freeman
2012-04-22  3:30                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-10 18:45   ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2012-04-11  9:34     ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-04-28 23:44     ` Luca Barbato
2012-04-29  6:44       ` Michał Górny
2012-04-29  7:04         ` Luca Barbato
2012-04-29 22:40           ` Zac Medico
2012-04-29 23:38             ` Luca Barbato

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