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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP81 and /home
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 21:52:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_nmYT7swQ_4pMvyQKr2h6RMmycKxOCmmL9OugJitqUeTQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6d0bbd7c-27e2-4973-2f11-074c1fa48b6b@gentoo.org>

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 8:51 PM Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/19/20 8:20 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > It would be far simpler for the sysadmin to simply ensure that no
> > unsynced user owns a file or appears in an ACL.  That would be pretty
> > trivial to achieve.  Whatever is hosting /home could be designed to
> > block such changes, or you could just scan for these ownership issues
> > periodically and treat those responsible for them appropriately.
>
> Fantasy scenarios again. I'm not going to debunk a system that you just
> thought up and that has never existed. Why don't you find one person who
> actually does this, and see if it bothers him if we create a home
> directory under /home where it belongs?

Uh, I'm pretty confident that nothing in my /home is owned by a UID
under 1000, or has an ACL referencing such a UID.  I just checked with
myself and I don't want you creating directories in /home.

This really seems like it has the potential to create a mess for
anybody using LUKS-encrypted home directories, stuff mounted from
CIFS, and so on.  While I personally don't do either it seems fairly
mainstream, and I could eventually see myself using it more once
better supported on Gentoo (such as when systemd-homed is more
mainstream).

> > On the topic of treating those responsible appropriately, somehow I
> > could see this scenario turning into a quiz question.
> >
> > I mean, would it kill you to just talk to QA first?
>
> I've already got responses from two QA members. This thread is pretty
> hard to miss.

Well, then why go posting stuff like "guess we'll be triggering a
warning after all?"

> I'm working on a patch for the install-qa-check.d check
> and I'm sure I'll get more when I post it.

Are you just allowing it to not create the directory, or are we
considering patching it to allow creating stuff under /home?  It would
seem that the policy would also need updating in that case, but
probably not the former.

-- 
Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-20  2:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-18 17:51 [gentoo-dev] GLEP81 and /home Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-18 18:10 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-01-18 23:38   ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19  0:21     ` Rich Freeman
2020-01-19  2:50       ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19 11:29         ` Rich Freeman
2020-01-19 15:49           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19 17:42             ` Rich Freeman
2020-01-19 18:37               ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19 19:02                 ` Rich Freeman
2020-01-19 19:27                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19 19:47                     ` Rich Freeman
2020-01-19 21:00                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19 22:09                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-20  1:20                         ` Rich Freeman
2020-01-20  1:51                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-20  2:52                             ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2020-01-20  3:16                               ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-20  3:40                                 ` Rich Freeman
2020-01-20  3:57                                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19 19:37             ` Robin H. Johnson
2020-01-19 19:19         ` Alec Warner
2020-01-19 19:28           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-19 19:32             ` Alec Warner
2020-01-19 20:44               ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-18 19:03 ` Alec Warner
2020-01-18 20:16   ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-01-18 19:08 ` Michał Górny
2020-01-18 19:44   ` Michael Orlitzky

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