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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 10:12:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_nbFsEjwe9vdY+MJv+yjCXFm2t1WmXXfUhO6Xki5-5Jgg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f68d46e15783a0bed20d11e6d00f9875.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net>

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 9:36 AM Eddie Chapman <eddie@ehuk.net> wrote:
> in Gentoo. Have any of these 4 maintainers publicly said (anywhere) that
> they are not interested in being maintainers anymore (which is fine if
> that is the case)?  We're not talking here about a lone maintainer of some
> peripheral package that's disappeared leaving an orphaned package.

It isn't like somebody is censoring the lists or waging commit wars on
the metadata.xml/mask file.  If somebody was eager to maintain it I'm
sure they'd have spoken up.

> I'm an outsider to Gentoo development (just a heavy user for over a decade
> both personally and professionally) so I might have missed something. I
> just find it puzzling.

I'm not puzzled by what is going on, or by your email, because it
happens basically anytime a high-profile package is treecleaned.  Yes,
Gentoo is about choice, but somebody has to actually do work to make
the choices viable.  There are always more people interested in using
software than maintaining it.  The frustration is completely
understandable, but also kinda unavoidable.

Repo QA standards don't mean that it has to barely work for your
specific use case.  The package has to deal with compatibility issues
with stuff you don't use as well, which is why maintaining a system
package can be hard work.  It is usually less of an issue for more
ordinary applications, which tend to have fewer interactions.  If it
is "good enough" for you as it is, then just move it to a private
overlay and keep using it.  You probably would need to override a
virtual or two as well.  Or publish your work somewhere others can use
it.

--
Rich


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-12 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11 15:14 [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev Andreas K. Huettel
2023-09-11 15:22 ` orbea
2023-09-11 15:29   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2023-09-11 15:42     ` orbea
2023-09-11 17:25       ` martin-kokos
2023-09-11 17:45         ` orbea
2023-09-11 19:20       ` Dale
2023-09-11 20:31         ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:14           ` orbea
2023-09-11 21:21             ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:29               ` Alexey Sokolov
2023-09-11 21:35                 ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:43                   ` Alexey Sokolov
2023-09-11 21:51                     ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-11 21:59                       ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:32               ` orbea
2023-09-11 21:50                 ` Sam James
2023-09-11 22:10                   ` orbea
2023-09-11 22:17                     ` Sam James
2023-09-12  2:34                       ` orbea
2023-09-12  9:18                         ` Rich Freeman
2023-09-12 11:00                           ` Alarig Le Lay
2023-09-14  0:20                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Madhu
2023-09-14  0:47                             ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 14:25                             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-14 14:57                               ` Mike Gilbert
2023-09-14 18:15                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-11 21:27           ` [gentoo-dev] " Eddie Chapman
2023-09-11 21:41             ` Sam James
2023-09-11 22:22               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-11 22:27                 ` Sam James
2023-09-12 13:36                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 13:57                     ` Sam James
2023-09-12 14:12                     ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2023-09-12 14:17                       ` Sam James
2023-09-12 15:04                         ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 18:47                           ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 15:35                         ` orbea
2023-09-12 17:23                           ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-12 17:36                             ` orbea
2023-09-12 19:06                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 19:32                                 ` orbea
2023-09-12 18:53                             ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 18:58                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-12 23:45                             ` karl
2023-09-12 18:51                           ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 19:05                             ` orbea
2023-09-12 19:56                               ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-12 20:59                                 ` Dale
2023-09-12 20:37                               ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 14:55                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 15:00                         ` Sam James
2023-09-12 19:21                         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2023-09-12 19:47                           ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 20:33                             ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-09-12 21:23                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 21:36                                 ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 21:45                                   ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-12 21:52                                     ` Matt Turner
2023-09-13  4:35                                       ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  4:56                                         ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-13  5:03                                           ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  5:38                                             ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-13  6:13                                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  6:19                                                 ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  6:40                                                 ` Dale
2023-09-13  6:54                                                   ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  7:23                                                     ` Dale
2023-09-12 22:35                                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-13  7:55                                 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-09-13  8:10                                   ` Dale
2023-09-16  6:01                                     ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-09-16  6:09                                       ` Sam James
2023-09-16  7:15                                         ` Dale
2023-09-13  8:13                                   ` Arve Barsnes
2023-09-13 23:49                                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 14:16                                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 14:44                                     ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 15:30                                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 16:09                                         ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 16:50                                           ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:18                                             ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 18:39                                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-14 19:11                                                 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 17:27                                             ` Rich Freeman
2023-09-14 17:39                                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:52                                                 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 17:57                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2023-09-14 23:19                                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-15 15:10                                                   ` orbea
2023-09-15 18:38                                                     ` Alexey Sokolov
2023-09-15 18:56                                                       ` orbea
2023-09-15 22:25                                                         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-15 22:40                                                   ` orbea
2023-09-16  1:12                                                     ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-16  9:35                                                     ` David Seifert
2023-09-16 13:32                                                       ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-16 22:03                                                         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-17  9:00                                                           ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-17 10:16                                                             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-17 17:56                                                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-17 18:38                                                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-14 17:20                                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:28                                         ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 17:51                                           ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:19                                     ` Matt Turner
2023-09-14 17:24                                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-13  2:55                             ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-13  9:05                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-13  9:34                                 ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  9:43                                   ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-13 21:57                                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-12 14:31                     ` martin-kokos
2023-09-12 15:00                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 15:20                         ` Sam James
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-09-13  1:23 Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-13  1:48 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2021-11-27  0:23 [gentoo-dev] Last " Mike Gilbert
2022-08-30  9:52 ` Jaco Kroon
2022-08-30 10:27   ` Arve Barsnes
2022-08-30 12:26     ` Jaco Kroon

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