From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAED1392EF for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCF57E0898; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C526AE0884 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id db11so11748205veb.40 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=KUnrTQjI8e9l8MBAJUOI/HYFlz+V0FVxkR+LBAah070=; b=OdnoHUxu5NsqPN7Nbv95EyOh3neNrePiAzUvwdpEaoEFhjIXosCzBfdAsk3IR0eg4Z jIdKeBAl3jEKopOdOoH2KZqspZh8y8AqEsGm+7M0V85KapviP8SpNLXik5LPj7kVbCFD 3lwH+i0q5WMJiSsZjffFbDCAzh99RJmDotaRyy4B2ZTc/G3GoLNQzj/sG0BybSypea6b EQKYaDPqEm5GpmaXl9uI50ArUUdjcMtGvDAuvG7FGWqbRGy6/sfWU0/oHTpJqVKbugsM 5MVe2mFzfHKooqrLRVcl2RkLrZsBaagz4RGEQNy6rFeKRDgfpKZ1jVgEYJOtQCBUv9BS UB/w== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.244.35 with SMTP id xd3mr40213vdc.71.1404329445031; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.72.19 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:30:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53B45B53.7080009@gentoo.org> References: <20140702154416.GA1151@linux1> <20140702195437.09c8efdb@pomiot.lan> <53B4523F.8040102@gentoo.org> <53B45860.2050400@gentoo.org> <53B45B53.7080009@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 15:30:44 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IlH-1KPXLm5eXMsiUHse4VAACSY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 7ffd606f-b259-4850-8438-d7efa97354c9 X-Archives-Hash: dc95790ebe979f20870d5a214bfbce11 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > > On 07/02/2014 03:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> >> I don't know how to get from here to there. The problem isn't just >> constructing an alternative profile tree. We could even have >> /usr/portage/profiles-r2 and switch between the two on demand. The >> problem is there's a lot of memory with flags and masks and these only >> make sense in the context of the current stacking profiles. >> Disentangling this information and bringing it over to profiles-r2 is >> going to be work. >> > I agree entirely. Right now the mixin style profiles are not supported > in gentoo _at_all_, and if no one ever works on that, then we will never > support it. I will work on the first step in a long road, that's all > I'm talking about here. I agree. I think getting support in all the tools for multiple profiles is a good start. Volunteers can then begin working on profiles that dis-entangle things. A first step might be to just rip out the desktop/etc categories, leaving the mess of arch/hardened/kernel/etc. Then we try to keep peeling back the layers. We don't have to get there in one step, nor do we have to release anything to the general public before it is finished. We might not end up with completely flat profiles - the goal is to end up in a better place than we are now, and perhaps we can make more progress later. Rich