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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:40:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_nWHmJqTxhKg5Svm=+sJS16RmhNT815hCbtE8sj0Agxzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2012.07.11.08.27.48@cox.net>

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> Being able to choose not to run systemd at all?  If there's no need to
> build systemd, than what it requires is irrelevant.

I think this discussion is getting sidetracked.

This didn't start out as a discussion about whether everybody should
have to have systemd on their systems - the answer to that is no.

The question is whether we should have a virtual for udev.  Right now
we're not sure how that is going to be packaged as far as systemd is
concerned, so it is premature to make that decision.  However, if we
do decide to fork udev then that means we'd almost certainly need to
have a virtual.  At that point we'd have two different udev
implementations in the tree - the fork and the one that comes bundled
with systemd.

Where things get dicey is if the two udev implementations start to
diverge and packages need to behave differently depending on which one
is installed - that would become a bit of a mess.  Hopefully it won't
come to that.

Rich



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-11 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-10 15:18 [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev Michał Górny
2012-07-10 16:54 ` Alexis Ballier
2012-07-10 17:57   ` Michał Górny
2012-07-10 18:15     ` William Hubbs
2012-07-10 19:23 ` Thomas Sachau
2012-07-11  4:51   ` Ben de Groot
2012-07-11  6:34     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-11  7:15     ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2012-07-11  8:27       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-11  8:33         ` Michał Górny
2012-07-11 10:40         ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2012-07-11 13:02           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-11 13:49             ` Michael Mol
2012-07-11 14:06               ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-11 14:26                 ` Michael Mol
2012-07-12  3:40               ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-12 13:37                 ` [gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-12 20:07                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-12 22:29                     ` William Hubbs
2012-07-13  5:58                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-13 20:04                         ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-13 20:12                           ` Richard Yao
2012-07-13 22:49                             ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-07-14  0:13                               ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  0:36                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14  0:40                                 ` Michael Mol
2012-07-14  1:10                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  1:15                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-07-14  1:21                                     ` Olivier Crête
2012-07-14  1:29                                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-29 11:31                                       ` Luca Barbato
2012-07-14  0:41                                 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-07-14  1:22                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  1:28                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-07-14  2:32                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14  2:34                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-29 11:38                                           ` Luca Barbato
2012-07-30 16:44                                             ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  3:13                                 ` William Hubbs
2012-07-14  5:35                                   ` Sylvain Alain
2012-07-14  6:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14 21:02                                       ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-14 21:29                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14 21:52                                           ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-14 23:38                                           ` Duncan
2012-07-14 23:57                                             ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-15  1:02                                               ` Duncan
2012-07-15 12:30                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-15 18:25                                                   ` Duncan
2012-07-15 18:48                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-16  0:30                                                       ` Duncan
2012-07-16  0:57                                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-07-16  8:40                                                           ` Duncan
2012-07-16  9:22                                                             ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-16  1:00                                                         ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-07-16 13:53                                                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-16 17:52                                                             ` Duncan
2012-07-16  7:30                                   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-07-14  6:13                                 ` Graham Murray
2012-07-14 11:33                                   ` Duncan
2012-07-15 22:34                         ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-11 14:09   ` [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev Michał Górny
2012-07-11 14:35     ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-11 14:52       ` Michał Górny
2012-07-11 15:05         ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-11 18:26     ` Thomas Sachau
2012-07-11 19:27       ` Mike Gilbert
2012-07-11 19:54         ` William Hubbs
2012-07-11 20:33           ` Mike Gilbert
2012-07-11 20:54             ` William Hubbs
2012-07-12 17:16             ` vivo75
2012-07-11 21:04         ` Michał Górny
2012-07-26 21:44           ` Peter Alfredsen
2012-07-26 22:08             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-27  2:37               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-27  2:49                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-27 15:50                   ` William Hubbs
2012-07-28 16:51                 ` Roy Bamford
2012-07-29  0:14                   ` Duncan
2012-07-29  1:01                     ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-10 19:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2012-08-10  7:59   ` Michał Górny
2012-08-10 17:33     ` Thomas Sachau
2012-08-10 18:13       ` Michał Górny
2012-08-10 20:23         ` Thomas Sachau
2012-08-11 18:11           ` Peter Alfredsen
2012-08-11 18:29             ` Michał Górny
2012-08-11 18:39               ` Peter Alfredsen
2012-07-11  8:03 ` Samuli Suominen
2012-07-11  8:56   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-07-11  8:31 ` Samuli Suominen
2012-07-11 14:04   ` Michał Górny

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