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On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I think putting more pressure so systemd isn't given as granted would be
> more healthy for both those who are not using it (because, again, is an
> aberration for any kind of daemon not written for it) and those that want to
> use it (since maybe as desktop-only it might have some nice integrations).
>
>
I'm not sure I've seen anybody talk of it being a given (ie no other
configuration is supported). If many devs want openrc to stick around
indefinitely I'm sure it will remain supported.
> Probably just adding the dbus interfaces and thinning it down might be
> something useful if that integration might have use-cases.
>
>
I would think the intent would be to stay close to upstream as is usually
the case with Gentoo. If they have integrations with 14 things than we
should, and that shouldn't be horribly difficult since all the upstream
projects would support them. That said, there is wisdom in only tackling a
few things at a time and having 2 working integrations might be more useful
than 47 non-working ones.
Is there something in particular that is causing alarm with systemd? All
I've seen is a package in the tree and some discussion. I'm sure there will
be requests for various packages to install some files needed for
integrations/etc. If anything is traumatic I'd be specific in stating
concerns so that the root cause can be addressed.
Rich
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Luca Barbato <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:lu_zero@gentoo.org">lu_zero@gentoo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">I think putting more pressure so systemd =
isn't given as granted would be more healthy for both those who are not=
using it (because, again, is an aberration for any kind of daemon not writ=
ten for it) and those that want to use it (since maybe as desktop-only it m=
ight have some nice integrations).</div>
</div>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure I've seen anybody=
talk of it being a given (ie no other configuration is supported). =A0If m=
any devs want openrc to stick around indefinitely I'm sure it will rema=
in supported. =A0</div>
<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Probably just adding the dbus interfaces and thinning it down might be some=
thing useful if that integration might have use-cases.<br><br></blockquote>=
<div><br></div><div>I would think the intent would be to stay close to upst=
ream as is usually the case with Gentoo. =A0If they have integrations with =
14 things than we should, and that shouldn't be horribly difficult sinc=
e all the upstream projects would support them. =A0That said, there is wisd=
om in only tackling a few things at a time and having 2 working integration=
s might be more useful than 47 non-working ones.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Is there something in particular that is causing alarm =
with systemd? =A0All I've seen is a package in the tree and some discus=
sion. =A0I'm sure there will be requests for various packages to instal=
l some files needed for integrations/etc. =A0If anything is traumatic I'=
;d be specific in stating concerns so that the root cause can be addressed.=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>Rich</div></div>
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