From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE37B1384B4 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF68921C071; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f173.google.com (mail-ig0-f173.google.com [209.85.213.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E600D21C002 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igcph11 with SMTP id ph11so60796093igc.1 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:52:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u/Nmi1NAwkVU2B8OUxRfP6kgIPfD66RgE/t3BC98ucA=; b=JSGXSRK0e1nJ/+ZtkQJiHus8BmyFV7gq6bGuU9ZbrWWv7BCZSI5NegQuJqGIWgfXZ8 /ttmp8O31T50CZY90mhRqDWBVHJQB2w724V3u69IGsoWzuJIX9pPaeoUPlo4fDBOVKI0 y8cjKY74+QTNYHQb5hnnbGlfc0x9fQK50f5DRrfY9/5QHVLB746AIlfxuUQArRpiFy3h ZuPZsNa9NOFwLwpeJhS6q1hIRue1q9C3SjiOShOF7eLTtJcmKWa6RGj9umw98RPGf7ny zk/8tc5RkXsHk8FV9V896t3m6KIhdQsZqUc0hUbOZhFmgiPIS9yrxcQaU4vAe4ip+ZBB TcGg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.142.7 with SMTP id rs7mr13428982igb.35.1449420753393; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:52:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.79.197 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 08:52:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56645DCC.1090202@gentoo.org> References: <20151206153611.2a132d2c.mgorny@gentoo.org> <566454D9.6050704@gentoo.org> <20151206170033.21fe1bcd.mgorny@gentoo.org> <56645DCC.1090202@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 11:52:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lJ5gGgVHQdJx71GPa0Yl_sB6gV4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: automatically mailing people on pkgcheck problems with their packages From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2a342077-e252-4cde-a5fa-922f5d21c25b X-Archives-Hash: 7e32c4a0f09133bb58697a84cc5c22cf On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/06/2015 11:00 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >>> >>> Of course. Add the commit author, too: I want to know if I break someon= e >>> else's package. >> >> So far, can't do that since we don't know which commit exactly broke. I >> don't want to do any heuristics that could blame the wrong person. >> > > Is the testing performed per-push rather than per-commit? Either way, I > would like to get a notification that something broke, even if it wasn't > my commit at fault. Just change the word "blame" to "alert" so no one > feels slandered. > ++ This isn't about shaming people. It is about alerting that the tree is broken. I think we can agree that when packages don't build it is a problem, and it won't fix itself. How many commits typically go by in-between checks? Would it be practical to just alert any commit author in that time range? Sure, it would generate a bit of spam, but: 1. Better to get problems fixed sooner than later. 2. The overall improved attention to QA will hopefully reduce the error rate and thus make the number of emails regulate themselves. One of the first steps towards reducing errors is to increase their visibil= ity. --=20 Rich