[gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[Oleksii Shevchuk]

Hi list! 

After introducing eudev, is there any reason to do systemd/udev split?

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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Yes.

I don't want systemd and I don't want eudev. And I'm not alone I'm sure.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[Georg Rudoy]

2013/1/14 Diego Elio Pettenò <flameeyes@flameeyes.eu>:
> I don't want systemd and I don't want eudev. And I'm not alone I'm sure.

You are definitely not alone (though I'm not a gentoo dev).

I think it makes sense to keep it split as long as udev is buildable
without systemd and until eudev proves to be stable enough. After all,
sadly, upstream udev has much larger userbase than eudev.

--
  Georg Rudoy
  LeechCraft — http://leechcraft.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[Rich Freeman]

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
<flameeyes@flameeyes.eu> wrote:
> I don't want systemd and I don't want eudev. And I'm not alone I'm sure.

++

If it costs me 1200 seconds of CPU time and 40 millicents in
electricity twice I year I can live with that...

Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[Ian Stakenvicius]

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On 14/01/13 01:06 PM, Oleksii Shevchuk wrote:
> Hi list!
> 
> After introducing eudev, is there any reason to do systemd/udev
> split?
> 

Ask in 6 months to a year, after eudev is fully established and has a
solid track record.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[William Hubbs]

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 01:59:14PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 14/01/13 01:06 PM, Oleksii Shevchuk wrote:
> > Hi list!
> > 
> > After introducing eudev, is there any reason to do systemd/udev
> > split?
> > 
> 
> Ask in 6 months to a year, after eudev is fully established and has a
> solid track record.

The only time I see eudev replacing udev as our default is if the
systemd guys actually kill udev on non-systemd systems.

William


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Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

[Rich Freeman]

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> The only time I see eudev replacing udev as our default is if the
> systemd guys actually kill udev on non-systemd systems.
>

Seems likely to me, but anticipating about 300 replies to your post, I
think we're all agreed that we'll do what makes sense when it makes
sense to do it.  Really no value in another thread speculating about
the future of udev - bottom line is that we're prepared any which way.

Rich