From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603EE1381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36B2CE0871; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40F95E081C for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ik5so3910263vcb.18 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 07:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hNhdfV5Ms5bYcA2veRKKRsdLU4VL3UuuwHOK5tZBmKc=; b=Kb0U8Ikn9cbwq9j6NUsjp4PxR2xWgITJ1+tMx8e4EYf6pIvSsxosdxuDq4D57ach4Q JTq+4V6k7z2r10YSzVfJfEu8ZCc7HliMwWaQWaG4HNh2s5/rjWrgp3KUYgRj7Jpw17v0 ch/EVTpwJtbTEW1n9VaYxBU0iAtadVfsT0czdsWO/c5LbsW+8bffFTd+nsYrrYtTPpim lxIe8DCymEbpWMvUva8x2q6eknJo1lDRYUWUPnd+J8Y0gP+M+5FCyZ8xLm6iBeBmBANR WlVdLG3kS51/viep5DLu+qIUVzxKWO76bTGonRet4KQ4GGdKFkTpsOrMiz23tWxXs3IP 7Ktw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.98.143 with SMTP id q15mr7421882vcn.38.1401804582504; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 07:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.30.227 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 07:09:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140603160545.002d75a2@gentoo.org> References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140531024701.GB3828@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org> <2990845.EWIttsqmb4@andromeda> <538DB0C5.6070206@gentoo.org> <20140603140850.7b69dff6@gentoo.org> <538DBE76.8060300@gentoo.org> <20140603152000.256c8e2a@gentoo.org> <538DCD8F.2050908@gentoo.org> <20140603154000.6c8e0372@gentoo.org> <538DD1AA.8070804@gentoo.org> <20140603160545.002d75a2@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 10:09:42 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FTmDDHGWel5Vll5tIZSYMLQCQvk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 0ec1a474-b952-4a22-8d01-fbacc9832fa2 X-Archives-Hash: d98e41b4d3503d0332b40e442d0f547e On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:53:45 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Whatever - short of profiles/mix-ins or whatever you want to do on a >> big scale there isn't a simple solution to problems like this. > > Why is the mix-in not a simple solution? It involves a tree-level change. Granted, for something like systemd it probably makes sense. However, there are always going to be dependency resolution situations where the PM won't guess the user's intent. Maybe in these cases the PM should make it more clear that there was an alternative option. Rich