From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE718138CCF for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 15:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 178F0E0A60; Sat, 23 May 2015 15:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f179.google.com (mail-ig0-f179.google.com [209.85.213.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 420FDE096E for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 15:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbhj9 with SMTP id hj9so11879215igb.1 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cn06jGhYxxvu7zw41YE0qAiiuClRI8YtP4t25pDF/Co=; b=Q/380K2EZ4fIiqsFrbuf81E5uQRKsMphQqezqmrlSLcVnqMFM8Tk80ADiwlmyZaIvW zFdErk4To9IOGqdRQt4zMXiWktd1bJ0IUNdOUryazO5zu9qStjhR34ovR9/ZLZ2q3uxV U6OEnxnRWDEK1gwhmxdIiC/+5yDkPpAs11t4tFImOPv9d68yPQoTMydtgUwBB/I79gYY hfxsmKGyq7b/7H/En/tm32Np2VJq7ADVJd5fYLXM6NQpVLc7A1RncgrySXGVGFj93VWs 85fJ62azBho2fb62lRzM0f9BVUY2UPgE0DQlmQN9HptFTMPsthGzpUSvNwAHVs1b7KmO 1c4Q== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.135.214 with SMTP id r83mr18045077ioi.13.1432395383696; Sat, 23 May 2015 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.159.81 with HTTP; Sat, 23 May 2015 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6D1767A6-3352-4382-A0EA-9DD123353521@syndicat.com> References: <5550AE30.4060706@nerot.com> <20150523153216.b24ba7b09621b23848b4992d@gentoo.org> <2210083A-8021-4099-BE58-551FE5619D21@syndicat.com> <6D1767A6-3352-4382-A0EA-9DD123353521@syndicat.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 11:36:23 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lGUmngZNce7E0ZYwmJkZK_-zjHA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0600b299-4106-4e8c-b270-4980786687b3 X-Archives-Hash: f4fed924b039e945599d724984826ad0 On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com) wrote: > >> Am 23.05.2015 um 16:20 schrieb Rich Freeman : >> >> With Gmail I can have an email with 14 tags. Via IMAP it shows up as >> if it were in 14 folders at the same time. It is a bit kludgy, but it >> at least works. > This is NOT part of a mail service - it is part of a mail client. There a= re different webmail solutions out (usable with any real mail provider) all= owing unlimited tagging btw... > Like I said, Gmail draws the line between client and server differently, and I find it more useful. Are any of those webmail solutions FOSS, and do they support accessing the mail by tags via IMAP using arbitrary clients? Do they support tagging via keyboard shortcuts alone, at least as far as applying the trash tag, removing the inbox tag, and applying the spam tag go? Do they also integrate with calendar/contact/document servers? Heck, I'm not even aware of a decent open calendar service protocol. Sure, everybody and their uncle can export ics files, but that is one-way only. I find those Gmail features useful. You can argue that exposing tags via IMAP violates the original intent of IMAP, but that doesn't make it less useful. It is like arguing that ZFS is a rampant layering violation - that is a nice philisophical argument but not nearly as nice as avoiding the write hole or the need to do a read before writing a partial stripe. > It is typically not the wisest idea to choose a mail service by any kind = of client software it offers - this remembers me hardly to the Lotus notes = hype=E2=80=A6 Sure, and if anybody made a decent webmail client with the features above that wasn't bundled to a service I'd happily use it. --=20 Rich