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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 11:36:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_n9L_SUG=C1UmGT5wJH5f2RjX1kPYiZf202V8-LB+1fkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6D1767A6-3352-4382-A0EA-9DD123353521@syndicat.com>

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
<nd@syndicat.com> wrote:
>
>> Am 23.05.2015 um 16:20 schrieb Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>:
>>
>> With Gmail I can have an email with 14 tags.  Via IMAP it shows up as
>> if it were in 14 folders at the same time.  It is a bit kludgy, but it
>> at least works.
> This is NOT part of a mail service - it is part of a mail client. There are different webmail solutions out (usable with any real mail provider) allowing unlimited tagging btw...
>

Like I said, Gmail draws the line between client and server
differently, and I find it more useful.

Are any of those webmail solutions FOSS, and do they support accessing
the mail by tags via IMAP using arbitrary clients?  Do they support
tagging via keyboard shortcuts alone, at least as far as applying the
trash tag, removing the inbox tag, and applying the spam tag go?  Do
they also integrate with calendar/contact/document servers?  Heck, I'm
not even aware of a decent open calendar service protocol.  Sure,
everybody and their uncle can export ics files, but that is one-way
only.

I find those Gmail features useful.  You can argue that exposing tags
via IMAP violates the original intent of IMAP, but that doesn't make
it less useful.  It is like arguing that ZFS is a rampant layering
violation - that is a nice philisophical argument but not nearly as
nice as avoiding the write hole or the need to do a read before
writing a partial stripe.

> It is typically not the wisest idea to choose a mail service by any kind of client software it offers - this remembers me hardly to the Lotus notes hype…

Sure, and if anybody made a decent webmail client with the features
above that wasn't bundled to a service I'd happily use it.


-- 
Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-23 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11  4:26 [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-11  7:29 ` Eray Aslan
2015-05-11  9:15   ` Tobias Klausmann
2015-05-11 19:31   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-05-11 19:35     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-05-11 20:01       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-05-11 20:08     ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-11 20:47       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-05-12  5:19         ` Eray Aslan
2015-05-12 10:26           ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-12 10:39             ` Peter Stuge
2015-05-12 12:56             ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11  9:38 ` Tony Vroon
2015-05-11 10:09 ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11 20:36   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-12  7:18     ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11 12:39 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-05-11 12:47   ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11 20:27   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-11 13:27 ` Charles Nérot
2015-05-11 13:37   ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 13:59     ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-11 14:44       ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 14:59         ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-11 15:21           ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 16:17             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-05-11 16:20               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-05-11 16:32                 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-05-11 16:38                 ` Michał Górny
2015-05-11 16:25               ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 16:19             ` Matthew Thode
2015-05-11 16:55             ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-11 17:06               ` C Bergström
2015-05-23  6:18       ` J. Roeleveld
2015-05-23  6:24         ` C Bergström
2015-05-23 11:05           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-05-23  6:39         ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23  7:54           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-05-23  8:01         ` [gentoo-dev] " James Le Cuirot
2015-05-23 11:16         ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-23 12:32           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-05-23 13:07             ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-23 13:34               ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23 14:20                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-23 14:32                   ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23 15:36                     ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2015-05-23 14:23                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-05-23 14:29                   ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23 16:24                     ` Mike Frysinger
2015-05-11 21:10   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-12  8:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] " Mike Frysinger
2015-05-12  8:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Amadeusz Żołnowski

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