From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RrLb2-0000DJ-7B for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:38:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B949E0729; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BA4E091F for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bke11 with SMTP id 11so393416bke.40 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:37:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6jYAXPkzT7F5xZMapcvvEHLZgQk+p36KWWmh+UzwjZg=; b=J/wTZsFOVTIMC3iSHL8lVwwYLocX3Ml7+fAHUMYrSKADvgbsRoqvCIW5KJikX+VUOT D1Bz/tmeNUTvaL3fzrs6c7tB8rzUjyDV8EMFDFxu00Xv3gtJsf6/bURBDpebVcU4HQFy oZtwhDG9bs5xwDYd6FTXWRDPl4Cb3T+xRdq4w= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.136.220 with SMTP id s28mr6175124bkt.59.1327808246802; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:37:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.205.125.144 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:37:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120128213312.3ee595af@gentoo.org> References: <20120128213312.3ee595af@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:37:26 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VturhEXaJgXI9DCpd_wml0-_Owc Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping older versions around From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: ae6ac1de-03d6-4eb0-ae7f-d19b5155d9f7 X-Archives-Hash: 58918b8be8582368cdcb0fb20ccbbec6 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > When you bump > to a new ~arch version, please consider keeping at least one previous ~arch > version around, so if people run into major issues they can at lease try the > previously installed version to determine if it's your package at fault. I mostly run stable and when I have to pull in the odd ~arch package it seems like for some of them I'm re-keywording them every third day. The stable version doesn't change in 9 months, and the unstable one changes 47 times, with old versions being dropped instantly so I have no choice but to move along or risk having a security bug that won't get GLSA'ed. Also, if we don't keep unstable versions around there isn't any way to get them stabilized, making stable more stale. If a particular unstable version is particularly buggy or otherwise not something upstream supports then it makes sense to move on. However, everything has some level of bugs (if you look hard enough) and if they're pretty minor then we should be asking ourselves if it is better or worse than the current stable, and if not then it should be left around if possible as a stable candidate. Obviously use common sense. If we can afford our users the luxury of upgrading at their leisure we should do so. Rich