From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270E1138247 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D90F3E0AF0; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0F26E0AD2 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id jx11so441397veb.26 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:58:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/Acr7BUV1n2fQZq/3sqyj15F8USApKSO9TIlpt+kgZM=; b=ZGib3UNoOwTWk2Q/HGiLPz1EMPInYbII4tqiols2FwRQNJbS1xpcTNcY3JwC+7JXzq guOjNvJw0yyB7xGTtW3OPO4Dce30dOXHLnRxNGCU3/Pt4UtWVzhWBYScPO5AIxwJjKzn SwAPSJ7h9GZiYFmMeo2WzDNayhk/DMBRLs5Pk+F1LZmX4Xe8Pm446KpUpxrrgHNNVJpe dhsIddM0cFdNtKTnkaebAKiCzCfe9CSGOdPcTnteqAGF8Ta3k40n3QEck7hKBXFzdfr9 eRezSJeeRlnakCrRx/zVbewg4EgW+GFCxVLHn+UoDVUEmrEh2vqHnl5YRaPtKIOzlowo SA6Q== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.227.6 with SMTP id rw6mr29754022vdc.19.1384358301028; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:58:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.108.199 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:58:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5283948F.1000409@gentoo.org> References: <20131113151012.04145837@gentoo.org> <5283948F.1000409@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:58:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d9VW6xxzn8i2DOGpYoFJF7uHyWg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: f175f4c6-847a-494f-8613-01532a124a12 X-Archives-Hash: 269c164a81b9302a97682d588ffcbbfe On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > It's also worth pointing out that the whole reason why abi_x86_32 is > {package.,}use.stable.masked is because trying to manage the partial > transisition between emul-* and multilib-build dependencies on stable > or mixed-keyworded systems is a horrible headache at the moment, due > to those exact same unexplainable dependency errors. Without > {package.,}use.stable.mask, all stable users would have to deal with > this *right now* on their systems. Indeed, by mixing keywords/etc Martin is basically having to deal with this mess *right now.* > > > Note also that setting ABI_X86=32 globally isn't how it's supposed to > be used; I never really viewed the new multilib stuff as being "ready for primetime" anyway. That isn't meant to reflect on its level of quality/etc - just that it isn't completely rolled out and the docs/etc aren't really designed for end-user consumption yet. Users who take advantage of new features in these kinds of states are going to run into problems. That's just the cost of being on the cutting edge. Rich