From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC pre-GLEP] Gentoo Git Workflow
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 18:46:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_mpL=wcGgxOjbK8=PAK_LvuFm7KhNxSM-UVkw+cdTdB2A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1501021831.16994.8.camel@gentoo.org>
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On wto, 2017-07-25 at 18:26 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > > On 07/25/2017 09:23 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > How is that relevant? Revision bumps are merely a tool to encourage
>> > > > 'automatic' rebuilds of packages during @world upgrade. I can't think of
>> > > > a single use case where somebody would actually think it sane to
>> > > > checkout one commit after another, and run @world upgrade in the middle
>> > > > of it.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Revisions are to indicate that one incarnation of a package differs from
>> > > another in a way that the user or package manager might care about. And
>> > > on principal, it's no business of yours what people want to do with
>> > > their tree. If someone wants to check out successive commits and emerge
>> > > @world, he's within his rights to do so.
>> >
>> > I don't feel I should be obligated by policy to support this use case.
>> > One revbump per push seems sufficiently safe for 99.9% of users.
>> >
>> > If you want to do more revbumps, you are free to do so.
>> >
>>
>> What is the point of separating changes by commits if we don't
>> generally try to keep each commit working?
>>
>> Sure, there are some cases where it is just going to be too painful to
>> ensure that, and so it doesn't have to be an absolute rule.
>>
>> However, if somebody is checking out a tree at some point in the past
>> they shouldn't have to try to figure out where the last push boundary
>> was to ensure that it is sane. Use cases for that include updating
>> older systems progressively, or bisecting a problem.
>
> Guys, please cut this FUD.
>
> Nothing is broken if you don't revbump. The only thing that doesn't
> happen is that the PM isn't obliged to suggest user to upgrade.
>
I wasn't referring to revbumps. Just to ensuring that all commits
generally work even if they aren't pushed.
--
Rich
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-25 8:05 [gentoo-dev] [RFC pre-GLEP] Gentoo Git Workflow Michał Górny
2017-07-25 8:23 ` Nicolas Bock
2017-07-25 8:49 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-07-25 10:59 ` Tobias Klausmann
2017-07-25 11:49 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-25 11:25 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-07-25 11:52 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-25 12:26 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-07-25 13:23 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-25 16:12 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-07-25 20:29 ` Mike Gilbert
2017-07-25 20:31 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-07-25 20:55 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-25 22:26 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-25 22:30 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-25 22:46 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2017-07-25 22:50 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-25 13:26 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-25 13:48 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-26 9:21 ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-07-26 17:04 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-26 17:20 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-26 17:32 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-27 9:54 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-26 17:00 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-25 11:50 ` Jonas Stein
2017-07-25 12:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-07-25 13:36 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-26 17:05 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-26 22:20 ` Sam Jorna
2017-07-27 6:08 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-27 13:48 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-25 12:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Kinard
2017-07-25 13:43 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-26 13:41 ` Brian Evans
2017-07-26 17:17 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-27 13:52 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-27 13:54 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-27 13:58 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-27 14:08 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-27 14:11 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-27 14:25 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-07-27 22:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-07-27 22:37 ` Duncan
2017-07-27 23:12 ` Duncan
2017-07-27 23:38 ` Duncan
2017-07-28 0:15 ` Duncan
2017-07-28 10:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Andreas K. Huettel
2017-09-08 21:19 ` Rich Freeman
2017-09-09 0:00 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-09-09 7:47 ` Michał Górny
2017-09-09 9:29 ` Rich Freeman
2017-09-10 7:39 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-09-10 9:34 ` Michał Górny
2017-09-10 22:13 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-09-11 3:09 ` Dean Stephens
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