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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 10:11 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
>> What's wrong with:
>> =A0 * having an "early mounts" list file
>> =A0 * having an "early modules" list file
>> =A0 * init system in early boot (e.g., OpenRC in init.sh) loading "early
>> modules" and mounting "early mounts" from /etc/fstab
>
> You're assuming that the /sbin/init hasn't migrated to /usr/sbin/init.
> Other that that, it sounds like a perfect solution if you're in the "I'd
> rather die than use an initramfs" camp.

Well, anybody is welcome to create any replacement/addition for
(/usr)/sbin/init or (/usr)/sbin/rc that they wish.  If you make it
good enough, perhaps others will even use it.

Beyond that, anything else is just a suggestion.  In the end the folks
writing udev and systemd are writing code, which gets them a lot
further than emails do...  :)

Rich