From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Soy1i-0000Oc-9e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:36:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF583E0700; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AFDE0686 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so1042598bkw.40 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:35:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N/9OfEOgDpTU162j/8Yh8z429fH8dDCA+7K0XWcm3Ag=; b=dsgog+TPejp+KdQO69D/CL1K8mPLQ0cyzrI33MF4LxiR/hiZoOZOPCACXT+PYciiH1 somY9C5+ci93UTAekWKSseILzurxLJ4cmoAjwsljew0qPNzSCUD5sme9JKljgH0F8eGg L1fKB5BpyOmHW3j+DuVvXpNFg7H+kMkzDlBst0Zqc0tNSAR3T85cig3srjy2ymomQAPO 1pi8qCIi3UN/MDAgW/uZlojnFu2FLEw7d8QY3NCyqax7dggUx9FkVilDC5KwEYsa9gkp gDvlzQ4U8rF62nVqiZov75xX9CQ20bQo8nuR5OFh+g4rRVwFS+OfI9wpNFjthenijEmc OXnQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.17 with SMTP id u17mr4637948bkw.52.1342017332930; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.4.71 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:35:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120711160946.2cb6fe64@pomiocik.lan> References: <20120710171800.493a7c4c@pomiocik.lan> <4FFC813B.7090501@gentoo.org> <20120711160946.2cb6fe64@pomiocik.lan> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:35:32 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G_p4M08KTxdyPTXTwv4OMwRpOEY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: tommy@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: ac403bc3-cd91-4bee-b5f2-238d6bb364bc X-Archives-Hash: 48abdb1d00c3b4920532c5820944c61c On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:23:39 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> As discussed on IRC, there is still no consensus for installing the >> udev files with systemd, which is the beginning for the block and the >> virtual. So we should first sort that point out, before we even start >> to think about an ebuild for an udev virtual. > > Do you have a technical or policy reason prohibiting me from maintaining > a systemd ebuild following the upstream policies? > It sounds like we have two packages that COULD provide udev - udev and systemd. If we decide for both of them to provide udev then we need a virtual and they need to block (which should make switching more fun). If we decide to keep using the udev package to install udev then we don't need a virtual. I'd view this like the split kde ebuilds. Upstream ships a monster tarball, and we install it in chunks. Just because upstream ships both packages together doesn't require us to install them together. >From a code-reuse standpoint and ease of transition standpoint it makes sense to keep them split, as long as we can have everybody continue to use the same udev codebase. Rich