* [gentoo-dev] default mta
@ 2012-12-26 9:46 Eray Aslan
2012-12-26 11:42 ` Mike Pagano
2012-12-26 13:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
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From: Eray Aslan @ 2012-12-26 9:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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The current default mta in gentoo - ssmtp - has a more or less dead
upstream and has some outstanding bugs. It is prudent to change our
default mta.
Both mail-mta/nullmailer and mail-mta/msmtp are lightweight good mtas.
Both packages have active development and provide AUTH and SSL/TLS
support.
Our current mta list is:
mail-mta/ssmtp
mail-mta/courier
rest of the list
...
As net-mail herd, we would like to have the following mta list:
mail-mta/nullmailer
mail-mta/msmtp
mail-mta/ssmtp
rest of the list
...
If there are no objections, the above change will be committed in ~10
days.
--
Eray Aslan <eras@gentoo.org>
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] default mta
2012-12-26 9:46 [gentoo-dev] default mta Eray Aslan
@ 2012-12-26 11:42 ` Mike Pagano
2012-12-26 13:44 ` Eray Aslan
2012-12-26 13:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
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From: Mike Pagano @ 2012-12-26 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 09:46:17 AM Eray Aslan wrote:
> The current default mta in gentoo - ssmtp - has a more or less dead
> upstream and has some outstanding bugs. It is prudent to change our
> default mta.
>
> Both mail-mta/nullmailer and mail-mta/msmtp are lightweight good mtas.
> Both packages have active development and provide AUTH and SSL/TLS
> support.
>
> Our current mta list is:
> mail-mta/ssmtp
> mail-mta/courier
> rest of the list
> ...
>
> As net-mail herd, we would like to have the following mta list:
> mail-mta/nullmailer
> mail-mta/msmtp
> mail-mta/ssmtp
> rest of the list
> ...
>
> If there are no objections, the above change will be committed in ~10
> days.
>
>
Would it be prudent to coordinate Gentoo documentation changes with the above?
--
Mike Pagano
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Team Lead - Gentoo Sources
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] default mta
2012-12-26 11:42 ` Mike Pagano
@ 2012-12-26 13:44 ` Eray Aslan
2012-12-26 13:57 ` Rich Freeman
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From: Eray Aslan @ 2012-12-26 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 06:42:36AM -0500, Mike Pagano wrote:
> Would it be prudent to coordinate Gentoo documentation changes with the above?
Ugh, I wasn't aware of any documentation that needs to be changed and a
quick look/search did not turn out anything. But if there are any,
sure, I will open the bugs and have it block the move.
--
Eray Aslan <eras@gentoo.org>
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* [gentoo-dev] Re: default mta
2012-12-26 9:46 [gentoo-dev] default mta Eray Aslan
2012-12-26 11:42 ` Mike Pagano
@ 2012-12-26 13:47 ` Duncan
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From: Duncan @ 2012-12-26 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Eray Aslan posted on Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:46:17 +0000 as excerpted:
> The current default mta in gentoo - ssmtp - has a more or less dead
> upstream and has some outstanding bugs. It is prudent to change our
> default mta.
>
> Both mail-mta/nullmailer and mail-mta/msmtp are lightweight good mtas.
> Both packages have active development and provide AUTH and SSL/TLS
> support.
I've wondered about this for some time, and now seems as good a time/
place to ask as any.
Is there any "system-mailer" app that doesn't actually mail anything
anywhere, nor run constantly as a daemon, that is simply invokable as
sendmail when needed, to take a message, format it appropriately, and
drop it in some local dir (preferably configurably as maildir, mh-format,
mbox, etc) where a mail client can read it as a local account? No need
to run constantly or to have actual network connectivity of any sort,
just to be invokable when needed.
I ended up creating a script that handles it here, but it'd be great if I
could find a proper package that handled that, presumably with a few more
features than the hacked up script I came up with.
Seems to me if there is such a thing, that'd be a great option to be
recommended in the handbook, for those who don't want to send the mail
off to the ISP/MSP (to be examined by crackers, three-letter agencies, or
simply rogue admins at the ISP/MSP), just to pick it up with their mail
client running on the same machine that sent it in the first place!
--
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] default mta
2012-12-26 13:44 ` Eray Aslan
@ 2012-12-26 13:57 ` Rich Freeman
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From: Rich Freeman @ 2012-12-26 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Dec 26, 2012 8:46 AM, "Eray Aslan" <eras@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 06:42:36AM -0500, Mike Pagano wrote:
> > Would it be prudent to coordinate Gentoo documentation changes with the
above?
>
> Ugh, I wasn't aware of any documentation that needs to be changed and a
> quick look/search did not turn out anything. But if there are any,
> sure, I will open the bugs and have it block the move.
Seems like a good time to add this to the handbook alongside syslog and
cron, at least for one of the simple solutions. I wouldn't consider it a
blocker though.
Rich
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