From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RiA2l-0005vk-EZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:29:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6017221C1FF; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C05121C05E for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaai1 with SMTP id i1so11376980eaa.40 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:28:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Uy3ju7MxeF4xsAT6PiX/glsIG9fbjT7L5o4kHNzLVlU=; b=WKZVHT8LS1r+NAtwSdzXDRNFd0je5QEny+PzsArRQfkJA0SLDvsG9UjaAwXcAMcwkK nOOvD393vfNT15d+D/NYmKB95oKM6tJwrnZytXTWVPwPl+IsNuekofXqwP4nGfRbnaez f3MgFzCGOSuLdMx+bSFEivMJzg9y15qCESkto= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.122.76 with SMTP id gf12mr12259270bkc.21.1325618886099; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:28:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.19.1 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:28:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120103183608.GB13702@linux1> References: <20120101015947.GA9914@linux1> <20120103095157.GC1961@waltdnes.org> <20120103151035.GA13017@linux1> <4F032F62.9050800@gentoo.org> <20120103183608.GB13702@linux1> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 14:28:05 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XyxVAelnPrtI8NibxKCt1BlGMTc Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: dbd0a2ae-15ce-4dad-9910-a224ad75f90a X-Archives-Hash: 1355162c270b6c7a10a21ca51ca71bb1 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > Well, I don't think everything is going to move immediately. The way I > see this happening is, udev/systemd/kmod are moving first, then other > upstreams will move their software. Agreed. If only a few packages have issues we don't have to subject our users to a huge overnight change. We can just move gradually with upstream. > Hmm, I'm not really interested in putting symbolic links in /usr/bin > linking to things in /bin or /sbin. I'm not following what that does for > us. Perhaps we could consider compatibility packages, like a bash-links that just installs a symlink to /usr/bin/bash in /bin. Ideally we'd never create them, but if a package can't be fixed in a straightforward way we could add a link package and then have that package depend on it. Then we can get rid of those links over time as nothing depends on them when upstream catches up. Before anything changes at all we need to have a solution in dracut/etc for mounting /usr. Once that is in place packages can move at any pace we wish, so there is no reason to short-cut QA. Rch