Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail

[Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>]

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström <cbergstrom@pathscale.com> wrote:
> What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has
> and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it right now in fact.
>
> You get the web interface, IMAP, POP, 2 token authentication (if you
> want to enabled it) and lots of other things. etc etc

How about the source code?

>
> It used to be free, but now google charges for it with an exception
> for non-profits.

The social contract isn't about free-of-cost.  In fact, Gentoo pays
for a number of services (often below commercial rates, but not
everybody can afford to donate 100% of what we need).  We've even paid
for a bug bounty on one occasion.  The social contract is about
free-as-in-freedom.  We don't depend on proprietary services as much
as possible.

We even have debates over the use of github, since the pull request
side isn't really FOSS.  It is tolerated mainly because we have FOSS
alternatives as well, and bugzilla is still the primary bug
tracker/etc.  To the extent that github is just used as a hosting
provider for git it is completely compatible with the social contract,
and would be so even if we were paying for it.

All that said, being non-profit we still try to use donations of
services anytime we can.  Our mirror network is probably the biggest
example of this - we have an insane amount of mirror bandwidth and
there is no way an org of our size could afford to pay for it on our
own.  Next time you do an emerge --sync take a look at the
hostnames/MOTDs/etc and be sure to appreciate them in some way.

-- 
Rich