From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC4D59CAF for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71FA821C063; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f172.google.com (mail-io0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7667C21C00F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 2so128723937ioy.1 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 04:52:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to; bh=HZ6qQdDk26g33iuUSLqdHDv5BKBQDoMkFbSY4YYesM8=; b=CaTqtOFdfy7bcR8gsYXDOUMnoZs/hTUWV8llB99LeEJRVB8BUoOAWpY1XOlOAL/5Tf r99fdLvEaDc9AtZJD6FrmKq2EGDUH00mVM7GtnsY+aW7HIZS9BJpLEW2ka5LfeG/sGg8 i2lxCzo1nqEZqCz9QGSIqr9Rmv61Ifc0FT/a7/Q0E24MxURvB7kp5gLcU71RxIlqbfqJ +AiErK8Vavw2NwODJNwmLqpPVbUpn9nVBHrX8a2ZFfHBJyFSvSy1vEDXv44jsMDRwHGp mWHNe/FjXveIeXj8jbRjMF7NG2a+sFe/tOnHXzOA1t+GHvQWlzneonT0jWhZeKY0apO6 7EWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=HZ6qQdDk26g33iuUSLqdHDv5BKBQDoMkFbSY4YYesM8=; b=WC+sqLkbMFsvN4RswIXmb0AXuUEWa0B67UkXXIQ0dnW7yuBafSm/RFy/wfFbExjKeM eUFYFqIpNVuDlBbFXgeblfdrmYf/K3OUrga7y32yR0c0gM0WVptzpN1DHM5AcXfrEXo5 /nae1QGIgZtHDkTJ/v6y/BgaNRpBVH6SKXaGhcCi1ya6S+8VUgW4E6lPyhjqeO/YrHZq 2Ayq84wvaVIuZOmRudXRRvMCkxyldDu38KHkO1NxP3LnHFcKC5XO00/lOb3Oz/MKY86L eb5/trR+WBJ4SXajp88ttNENlWtk+qIVzs+g+bnShQbnBNN5R6tAbYBif4Khe8Sf7MJf CSrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKXdIqn/TTejB3N7lFPxZwoxAEhAOK8D7cbCpaYN4Fu9DVf+uDRHrXymVCTFRzFPreROkP/AXJYN6CDQg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.184.198 with SMTP id i189mr8401646iof.26.1460116370105; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 04:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.52.72 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 04:52:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160408124117.0bf5c564@red.yakaraplc.local> References: <57067172.49cbca0a.693b1.ffff9909@mx.google.com> <20160407154636.GA26596@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <5706A7A6.3080402@iee.org> <57070bbd.9a48620a.a07cf.3177@mx.google.com> <57070c95.0714320a.ed102.1995@mx.google.com> <57079677.9010900@gentoo.org> <20160408124117.0bf5c564@red.yakaraplc.local> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 07:52:49 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vR0ZrOuV0z3KYQKMkm4RlbBjJo8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 1651a01d-b91c-4c65-ac99-f9fcae8cbc74 X-Archives-Hash: b758d90afc7bf19cb63f61e661aa0835 On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 7:41 AM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 07:31:03 -0400 > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: >> >> @anyone, can you list the reasons we're doing this (I'm sure there's >> more than one). If systemd if one of them, then I'm confused because >> debian has switched to systemd and yet has not merged usr. > > Not that I'm for or against the merge but note that openSUSE, which has > also switched to systemd, hasn't done the merge either. > systemd and /usr merge are also fairly orthogonal. There are many reasons for a /usr merge, but most tend to revolve around getting all the relatively static distro-supplied content into a single place. That makes it easier to make a separate filesystem, or read-only, or signature-checked, or atomically updated, or shared, and so on. Some of those derivative benefits may be harder to realize on Gentoo, but I think the principle is worth considering. -- Rich