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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] QA bikeshed: killing USE=dedicated in favor of uniform USE=client+server
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:56:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_mUZ8JF7Cz5Ay7Y07YrOiYMy0YSzerQ7tgwQ5-WstVZ-A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D6166E.6090805@gentoo.org>

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 2:03 PM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 08/20/2015 07:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> As an alternative, we would use USE=client and USE=server along with
>> proper IUSE defaults to control client & server builds appropriately.
>> Both flags use positive logic, and REQUIRED_USE='|| ( client server )'
>> is rather clear.
>>
>> Does anyone see any real problems with that?
>>
>
> That increases the burden of managing configuration and further abuses
> REQUIRED_USE where it wasn't meant to be used in the first place.
>

I don't think Michał is encouraging the use of REQUIRED_USE.  It would
only be used in cases where you could only install a client or a
server, but not both.  I imagine that would happen rarely, if ever.

I support this approach.  Lots of other client/server packages are
moving in this direction, or even splitting the client/server into
separate packages in some cases (I'm not suggesting making the latter
mandatory).

The typical game would have IUSE="+client +server" and then users
could set -client if they want a dedicated server, or -server if they
want a dedicated client, or whatever.  It seems pretty intuitive to
me.

-- 
Rich


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-20 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-20 17:42 [gentoo-dev] QA bikeshed: killing USE=dedicated in favor of uniform USE=client+server Michał Górny
2015-08-20 18:03 ` hasufell
2015-08-20 19:32   ` James Le Cuirot
2015-08-20 20:17     ` hasufell
2015-08-20 19:56   ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2015-08-21  6:39     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-08-21 14:29   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2015-08-20 20:31 ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-08-20 21:19   ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2015-08-20 21:33     ` hasufell
2015-08-20 22:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2015-08-20 22:18   ` hasufell
2015-08-21  1:03     ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21  3:11       ` Kent Fredric
2015-08-21  6:50     ` [gentoo-dev] games.eclass (was: Re: QA bikeshed: killing USE=dedicated in favor of uniform USE=client+server) Ulrich Mueller
2015-08-21 15:10       ` [gentoo-dev] games.eclass hasufell
2015-08-21 17:39         ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21 18:17           ` hasufell
2015-08-21 18:44             ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21 19:42           ` Daniel Campbell (zlg)
2015-08-21 21:09             ` James Le Cuirot
2015-08-22  7:33               ` Daniel Campbell (zlg)
2015-08-22  9:56                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-22 11:10                 ` hasufell
2015-08-22 14:32                   ` James Le Cuirot
2015-08-22 15:25                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-22 20:47                     ` hasufell
2015-08-22 23:48                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-22 18:01                   ` Daniel Campbell (zlg)
2015-08-22 21:16                     ` hasufell
2015-08-21  1:36 ` [gentoo-dev] QA bikeshed: killing USE=dedicated in favor of uniform USE=client+server Alexandre Rostovtsev
2015-08-21  7:16 ` Sergey Popov
2015-08-21  8:11   ` Kent Fredric
2015-08-21 10:58   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21 11:28     ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-08-21 12:04       ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21 15:27         ` hasufell
2015-08-21 17:17           ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21 18:29           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-08-21  8:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell (zlg)
2015-08-21 10:31   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21 11:01     ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-21 19:31     ` Daniel Campbell (zlg)

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