From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CF11381F3 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 17:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EE7CE0BCE; Sat, 25 May 2013 17:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f47.google.com (mail-vb0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49C77E0BC8 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 17:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x13so3850653vbb.34 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FRZluxcG8rrz+ppe1JC5yqnaoXL1Wz/LkxSFfrTTO6E=; b=lz4iLfG52XU0E+l99xbIS+8hPIhtk+WJCtmzwROTgKAvLcTmDELJz//FKyQrsLdctK TIEZPoJ0Eyoz9NwH7geWCrAhHpJMTTqiJICpvjIWfasqRl6TaUDrmavSd4aCZarCMgML bzU/LeENfjgewViOwZViYnnZbEKJtBv4m+RMX/YOjiq0YR4HExXpurCRQtbhZusllDLw KlMvbwmPBulm/mSQt9S2YVT1KSe9eJoCR+OZHjfsA2bJd9Xxr8U0SlJ+DJkT4PfJNne6 tAkRUaSPOHlThcFMmO4rLKGcpjc4ATIjKPx8uJ6m/ixXhXTeVVkyyRyJINOmSTkqpcGr LIwA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.90.66 with SMTP id bu2mr11632536veb.29.1369503512484; Sat, 25 May 2013 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.168.233 with HTTP; Sat, 25 May 2013 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130525184830.5bb25483@gentoo.org> References: <20130525184830.5bb25483@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 13:38:32 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aE62whM-79YAt8gZBm8VL2C1bc0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 4dfd1f99-9cd3-4a6c-8cca-1de85743cc6b X-Archives-Hash: e9eef4a107850c8d39cd0392d0f3ef90 On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 2013 00:14:36 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: >> But if a co-maintainer pushes through a change that I oppose, then >> working together becomes quite difficult. In this case I opted to give >> up maintainership. > > Yet another stand. No offense but I'm afraid it's quite childish of you. > I don't understand why you're so proud of it. It's a bit like 'Gentoo > will play as I like. If it doesn't, then I will play against Gentoo. > And if that doesn't help, I will resent and slam the door, and then > write to ml about it.' Honestly, if people want to have that attitude they might as well stop maintaining anything that installs a daemon. As a developer you have NO power to prevent somebody else from co-maintaining, and since those devs who use systemd are likely to want to have units and they're willing to do the work, you can expect somebody to show up and add a unit. The very nature of Gentoo leads to situations where you'll get requests from other devs to add support for crazy stuff to your packages (X32, prefix, init systems, etc). As long as somebody else is willing to do the work to maintain it (as a developer or proxy) and it doesn't hurt conventional users, we should cooperate. Rich