From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A736B1381F3 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48F0FE0A70; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 602DFE09B8 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q12so6803590vbe.13 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:43:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AdzCcEJkIWPls1X14OrmfWWa5/GrF+GTNWxu/bi/A9E=; b=rCmo0k+2DxlWTg0LeEOUvcT/PJzJ0TFhX3YUJvDrMptPitLDMEhxoN24m73ha5sOZF T0h2TNwN54lz7Xchd1oNXDd45XpvcHBEQlkbNt4j6zsSiJ1PT7nlCRV4Z2CG0RFiunwF PCAvtEPCXp8vRA178u7owdI9q365pdErFDMlZu1OnDsmJryhNYS2u1TISyphNssehMQb LfJDtgsY6NCsFZCLGk3PTE0xrUgwcqr6i7vwA9UA0eGQmZHmgSUiK3EwYjT/iGJ9sbBR kv0Sizkt5PlowcukILO7F0+/+/Z8YJPerhbmUMmVgi4kwj53Kh+ocRwP5IWI9R4/zLFt c8DQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.59.69 with SMTP id k5mr7383520vch.34.1371897796498; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.180.98 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:43:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20933.26517.731140.317442@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <201306212017.38571.vapier@gentoo.org> <201306212106.31519.vapier@gentoo.org> <20933.26517.731140.317442@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 06:43:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZDt79LzhD2uj1JcbAul88fVrWUU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Soliciting input for a non-maintainer update (NMU) GLEP From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: d222deb4-a054-49af-bfcf-a1ea9f73e171 X-Archives-Hash: 5aef46d59d7181fbed86dd4feed23279 On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Shouldn't this be REQUIRES_TEAM instead? A "herd" used to be a > collection of packages, whereas the devs maintaining them were called > a team. Or don't we care about this distinction any more? Certainly when I was recruited this distinction was made. In recent years it seems to have gone away. I'm not going to nitpick on terms because the present system mostly works. The original definitions was that groups of packages are herds, and groups of people are projects. The fact that nobody seems to actually formalize their projects (create page, elect leads, etc) probably contributes to conflating the two. Plus, it really isn't that much of a value-add to clone the namespace/etc. Willikins thinks of people as part of herds as well. Rich