From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D031381F3 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50F67E0B68; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8720BE0AD4 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e13so5075633vbg.31 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 04:14:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=+IlnYxbqyx4ofh0hoTyDUCd1/+x78jYdYnmilmF43oA=; b=Vub/DzX4DlpnTbzl9Rk5W3T7DuOsvIEY1J87eghHlLhnRuTsQa3euPG6orjI6MO1Mz fhR0xpgtaUKwQmFb3GRTwxGJGyrSpqrihwbetpzsIgngupQHlxPmUkI2fVpBRSoeWmv6 Bl/wbkOg73a+tY4RSp4mSh0p7a9/6y/gcCkYzP6esvTn+rNn8q26ptmKOqvcGjoaU4zH rF/t0wpUvRGnXSwdNyGOXXqC9gc8vTfwB3xLAt4S+hWcD3SiAoOWnlwnjv82rDZtzoMX gAFo86diQ99Fyw/Ug8O65/mEtbL11SMsFIcAyTtGLHmEu/463jXesDmuYSo8IctCELpU QuLg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.56.194 with SMTP id wd2mr10634625vcb.7.1376219640491; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 04:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.73.74 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 04:14:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5207427F.2060208@gentoo.org> References: <5202416C.5@gentoo.org> <52037513.1090004@gentoo.org> <52040220.6030302@gentoo.org> <1375996001.1561.9.camel@localhost> <52043733.9000402@gentoo.org> <1376029464.7236.6.camel@localhost> <5204B5E3.9030806@gentoo.org> <1376041866.7236.14.camel@localhost> <52072403.4060103@gentoo.org> <1376206302.1432.5.camel@localhost> <5207427F.2060208@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 07:14:00 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kvV3xx5UPnL58BoY0it2R7ThG6U Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 869306f1-eb5a-4256-bcea-f8fd3b9b3d50 X-Archives-Hash: 005fac3d4f9d2a3d65cc043376fe252b On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > I've been considering packaging systemd in sys-fs/udev with USE="systemd" > and use of 'if' and 'else' plus creating virtual/systemd for proper / > installation and some other minor, but bad design choices done in the > systemd packaging What is the consensus of the systemd team regarding those choices? Would it make more sense to just fix the packaging rather than forking it? I'm not sure what all the issues are, or how widespread the disagreement is. As far as installation in / vs /usr goes - that seems like something that could be made configurable in the systemd package. I believe others have been wondering if an optional usr-move config setting of some kind (might or might not be a USE flag) would be useful. The profile default would be for things to stay as they are, but those who want to do a move could set the flag. That is worth some further discussion before implementing it - it might also make sense to install compatibility symlinks in / when using it unless it is detected that / already contains symlinks (individual symlinks is not how Fedora is proposing handling the move, but I would think that it would work and it has the virtue of letting users migrate bit by bit until / is empty and they can replace the root dirs with symlinks). Rich