From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-52794-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1ShqFF-000644-KX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:52:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6033E0D28; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40378E0D17 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjk13 with SMTP id jk13so1211271bkc.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:51:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PnKsxYBPa4fNCN3435N5kDFtPgPZam73UWkdVxV4Ny0=; b=tb2mnJ028c135ivF4EpWiS6WI+WHykKmsWMb3K05xepC4t96tlwEyDga13YsIwnxKU EBRd7UI0z/0Q4ZetV9E6IlcGg4uI2IZeQsz/TrXUhn1UAcp3H5U/i8dmxLpNhjkFJbBI 5mUjZINHPI48mbLRbDF+t0ivhZtoO/LYytUtBcin3vX1ybOvMZ+SP7S1eNIKP4eQyFpy J2AnJ4irxhfcoOTjlRFRcS0LAYaMBpdVKJZMNKwnpeBjtz3su72YfA8WFMCVNHwqM63F TFmz5ailQn7CdTqBMFDF3vZxpFIIRm5LmRX2caPiexDpbnDYIByPFhHGl+ubAGPyPcmW /mag== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.81 with SMTP id b17mr12718995bkw.52.1340319118237; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.38.2 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:51:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120621191009.662.qmail@stuge.se> References: <4FE0F922.2090807@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_kY8S_M28jYbgeB-N+4gSD45OFJ74LhOOfUZSDt32T+yw@mail.gmail.com> <4FE1230D.8090502@gentoo.org> <1a28c6af40914cf5b6b5559bd0195a1b@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu> <4FE24BB7.3000904@gentoo.org> <pan.2012.06.21.08.08.39@cox.net> <4FE2EA62.1090407@gentoo.org> <4FE336FA.2030509@gentoo.org> <4FE33833.90103@gentoo.org> <1340304968.2730.0@NeddySeagoon> <20120621191009.662.qmail@stuge.se> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:51:58 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6pFPRA0UZDGz6FDyVha72sX9FIc Message-ID: <CAGfcS_kgPykciFouchNo0jmBe2dRuZKF7476sJJB4JhfH3VkgQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Killing UEFI Secure Boot From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: a785a98b-19f6-4454-9e72-766e3569d198 X-Archives-Hash: 350e6fa91b23cd51430b8465254146f0 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se> wrote: > Roy Bamford wrote: > >> So when you build a dud kernel and flash your BIOS with it, and we >> all build the odd dud, your motherboard is bricked. > > Any firmware modification has potential to brick, and shouldn't be > done unless you are comfortable with the modification, or with > solving a brick problem. :) So, why are we still going back and forth about this? If people want to work on coreboot they can do so (I'm sure they have a list). If people want to fork coreboot or redo it from scrach they can do so and start their own list. When it is shiny and perfect and has a following of hundreds of linux users we can always discuss whether we recommend using it in the handbook on -dev then. Otherwise it seems about as on-topic as debating whether grub or systemd or openrc should have feature A/B/C - we're a DISTRO - we integrate and ship what upstream gives us... Rich