From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89A581396D0 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38992E0F46; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-x231.google.com (mail-wr0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C50DAE0F35 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-x231.google.com with SMTP id x43so20481702wrb.3 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:09:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=sf70Aj3BhRBQ6Bzx9vTOhDxpLg9gJpkwSx+HFWgkJa4=; b=qPgeWZ5V7CfbGoI/GqsQfONqkpWoZ36m9L2pQv53LDDcA0UqR7dHswIqbj2rGoNQ1B B+l4mERGaFMGuULhhT4NpYQVhEDa+UNh07OKrILl1MDXfPbA0yQVREh1LEtzz1XwKIEu yQg/MSgzQWoT1ncCAsYSnheE/mSXHRvXMhG9ZS2/+qIZuwSI8JK4EyWL+SWIYnbE+6cK WTVxChx0byZNG8zYWJwYP9PGFRcS92TW0uRY1FOpGEoaP6B041LN1iVyVBHmvqZGZ0vd rtda2/UIKxFrl4qHUKTpE6GMOEtYNWRTzGovoYc565CjfZQKgF3YE9aE2XeYRgB5Ny9i KgUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=sf70Aj3BhRBQ6Bzx9vTOhDxpLg9gJpkwSx+HFWgkJa4=; b=Q8Lcp0q9PeYu75f6DeHPuOTSmIHn0FA61M627nWPyn2iXemdsI7I6q75LHJC1BUuWY 4SPzUl9uiM8zD7fy0aBYG6k0vloRuR7ZzMqAA5vIArFtt7eo4qsUd2XmKBkusA2iSBS4 yOwctT2UZVGHoALz+RkWAsG6ZLV7QM1442yuMXEkOvL5+Ccv0YvbXeHeS/XcrmYEpKqa dZ3vCPnHrPPGHnMb9Vuj2GOX8awKchL2SDwowGobMujU6KE3WPiE1sAEfFedaFlJ4Ipj B5nnhFOyGC+9uQaGtDXTlg43O8W+IkIK9VgrSnQoWWGmM/vGyATZfRGVpPsYa5PSzVmf IEUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5iBagvM1G450kRoKOqD1nY80BCOqTCbDq/+3+noXIyXpsLJ8VNT bFt1klc3k3cAzT89RWGdVZ74yKpBtjXb X-Received: by 10.223.163.90 with SMTP id d26mr1698301wrb.82.1502899759334; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.169.238 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:09:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1502521423.1045.0.camel@gentoo.org> <4ebddcf6-1d84-684a-6e3c-96bb65c24fd2@gentoo.org> <9a9b48c9-db50-f4e5-d4bb-cb4e0ebe8858@gentoo.org> <20170814120140.GA758@meriadoc.perfinion.com> <400510bf-a54b-e1ad-cb42-3e094b86bfde@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:09:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7u7ZwASQmziKxgBMzYQToSC-Xow Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Revisions for USE flag changes To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: da6c95b7-9ef3-4c7f-8e83-12087664dc44 X-Archives-Hash: 5946ee3448f8bcd4504a1ee0ae848792 On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > > But even if that's the case (I wouldn't know), it's the case due to a > deliberate decision of those going "under the bus", because portage is > the default, and by choosing to use some other PM, they've deliberately > chosen its (non-PMS) features over those of portage. > None of this really has anything to do with PMS as far as I can tell. There is no PMS requirement for --changed-use and such. There certainly might be a usability requirement for it, which is why it usually exists in one way or another. -- Rich