From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6275413827E for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBA5CE0BF3; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9116E0B0C for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m10so433301vbh.14 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 03:23:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=tah/eVt6q8aAisewXrziLsl2IAw3ktrUDTqObkT9EmU=; b=YMdO99pnKqd6XtAochBIo4dbSGKr5m7+Hj2cpJa/ZFY6kqVaPxfHtaaUxB6c5iJJ+h dL/ydNlIPmRQ95zUnEhGm9Bl3Dd2uFf6xWeAGylh3A0Nn9qv9op7421Ow8L2LMsenbeY gIJz9iHGXQlAckY51LVo1aPTF5m+UgBki/Tvq/pAkpT9tEUME6v0aBEOOaHWri49aXnp 9IyVuvpsDLdTHJf1AEyGH6bUX1ZtB8734/XyObo+vguDpUacuvMiXb65gyqhIWbjNu2N bkj9sOunWKCvFX6svxeWAvMwZL7jSewLtfp0TmaxE3WjpEv9+2g8PKDgOZKcs8z0jYqJ 0yMg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.117.176 with SMTP id kf16mr11202488vdb.6.1386674590022; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 03:23:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.112.99 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 03:23:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1386671491.1145.24.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> References: <20131201102015.GA1219@egeo> <20131202202845.GA8574@linux1> <529CF973.2020008@gentoo.org> <529CFAA1.7080608@gentoo.org> <20131203211130.GA31972@linux1> <52A2B788.3040409@gentoo.org> <20131208222552.GA22567@linux1> <52A5D89A.4080506@gentoo.org> <52A62062.9030109@gentoo.org> <1386671491.1145.24.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 06:23:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Fu7AeaDM4bb58k2whYLg_xEK_mk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 1a5be9a6-e345-4904-9cc9-822f151879e1 X-Archives-Hash: 07d81c35f79a4b787679d36d6df3a4af On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:33 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > You're thinking with your x86/amd64 hat on here. Actually, I probably just underquoted. I am well-aware that there are issues with ARM, hence my previous suggestion that it might make sense to vary this by profile. Let me try my post again, with a bit more quoting: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > What if he wants to > put a stage3 on a disk for his amd64 box from his arm box? I'd love to > see him emulate an amd64 from his arm to install dhcpcd. ... > I really don't like the idea of having no networking in the stage3 by > default, however, I'm becoming more open minded on what qualifies as > networking. What I'm wrestling with is this, what if I want to slap a > stage3 on a device and then access it from the network? > Almost nothing > in my place has a monitor (amd64 and arm alike) and I use one of my two > laptops to talk to everything else. Hit your head on the wall because it doesn't contain a kernel? Stage3s in general aren't functional systems. Insofar as much as he was talking about ARM I get the point. Insofar as he is taking about amd64, not so much. Which he was talking about in that paragraph I can only guess at. But as I later said in the same email: If it actually had collisions with other network managers I think there would be more of a case for removing it. After all, we stick openrc and portage (the PM) in the stage3 and you don't exactly need those in order to run Gentoo... Rich