From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7E31381F3 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 390BAE0BC5; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55A03E0BBE for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 9so4087122iec.36 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:54:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OmdI3TWY0TVr1NpIWYaWfwT/4i+yEf1OlgjEqLtVcYU=; b=Y1N2YFtKYinbVrb1vnKPQtomevYH3xS/ylVJDeQQrqQwhXcQIcNuljL510WEawaTLd Xxp1rd6koF4EPVbNU/nnhY4Gp+GyfjuvW5upYAcSDoCVAR2fade6LypTLnAKlK9Txzem pibfF7LbXNynZzMyOqw1VFf14lY1NELvouxylsuATJSiOwpOmayOT7Ied8WoVgZuFU6g LwmhLzD1OmL/ifj08JfCIt9B1d1dHx5reOHIMS8gQt3Ck15UH+N6oNEBd/pUUK2mY1a/ fKrTBhq6nK5jrWNHBbsftNTgPjlmPfiIwkeSEzbweaKfSYU5tG8lcVQUW7oCDX+bz9Mw UzNg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.109.166 with SMTP id ht6mr13898570igb.26.1366916067521; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.171.19 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:54:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5179759B.3080000@gmail.com> References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> <20130424223446.GA12947@waltdnes.org> <20130424231701.GA3133@linux1> <201304251410.57679.vapier@gentoo.org> <5179759B.3080000@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:54:27 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FE80hEAS4w-YRSX0NTRma5DyrUU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 020e28d9-b924-4df5-8e7a-4a0ec9660d50 X-Archives-Hash: a7ccf3f8e15ebfa0e2b5b6130f32dcd5 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > I have just one question.... > > When "gentoo-oldscripts" is pulled from openrc > > WHAT will be the default network configuration method? "gentoo-oldscripts" The intent isn't to remove these scripts (unless for some reason you don't want them), but to just move them to a different package, and get that package pulled in by default. We're just debating the various mechanisms for doing this. The initial proposal was to basically tell everybody to install it manually, which isn't that hard to do and works just fine. The downside to it is that anybody who misses the news loses their network on the next reboot (not that this is anything new for anybody running udev). The leading proposal is to just pull it in with a defaulted USE flag, and maybe issue a warning if a user has that flag overrided. It will take little to no work to keep networking exactly as it is on a Gentoo system, and the main debate here is how to get to "no work" for as many users as possible while not taking away choice. Rich