From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A934E138CCF for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 11:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66A4FE0944; Sat, 23 May 2015 11:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com (mail-ig0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E8E5E093B for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 11:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbsb11 with SMTP id sb11so7528640igb.0 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 04:16:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nfVp0y/jUm2ex5G6oDDFi9QE5KwGI7eGdef9005aXok=; b=hnUM7Vz4qraN1IxAhRgQZiAtmF/QIyH5CjwkXqHgtSmDBIX27HalzpC2YB/Cnz7NCb 4Hn81t4r4C5GeFtq4EHYT+q6c5rbhbH4oYmcNKj5erVfGyWHlBeB3EDvt1lRtkHQTLiP J2DaLnmn6fSk5K6J78Ay666l/RCiptf6TLBEuIi4WguHPVMQLuCdKWjHD0rouA9GANN9 59xXf6dMln8p7wEIGM1+6aX6m7BA2vcmk9/gpDbC1Yt2dFwXAryprNBkPB+tFOShKD61 t+HKA2IqOR55KMfDYnVav8O/TO2FAyQRsghL2yt02h0IrEQ1CQIdApo6DLOdKTgh+8Y3 tBeQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.135.214 with SMTP id r83mr16733173ioi.13.1432379770942; Sat, 23 May 2015 04:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.159.81 with HTTP; Sat, 23 May 2015 04:16:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5550AE30.4060706@nerot.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 07:16:10 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: U58-lqn6YbVSmuKvUV_AumW868A Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 437e14ec-d45b-45c3-9184-8d3579ca57a9 X-Archives-Hash: 66418849497cf6f91a39d50b1484d467 On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 2:18 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 11 May 2015 15:59:40 CEST, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>I'd REALLY like to see a FOSS alternative to Gmail (a good one, that >>is), and ditto for Google docs (or whatever the latest branding for >>that is). There is nothing magical about cloud-based services any more >>than there is anything magical about letting somebody else host your >>website. The key is to ensure that the technologies are open so that >>you aren't bound to a single provider. > > Rich, > > If you are thinking of a FOSS email provider. Maybe investigate Fastmail? > > They use postfix and cyrus. And they also handle a lot of the development of the latter. > My mail all goes through my own postfix server and POP/IMAP server before it gets to Gmail, and I already have an alternative solution for outbound SMTP for this server. I was talking about a decent FOSS browser-based MUA. The only ones I'm aware of are Roundcube and Squirrelmail, and neither supports keyboard shortcuts or tag-based mail as far as I'm aware. Actually, I'm not aware of any FOSS IMAP implementation that supports tagging - that is an email can be in more than one "folder" at the same time. But, I haven't looked too closely into that since without an MUA it isn't terribly useful. -- Rich