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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>,
	Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>,
	devmanual@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:51:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_kKB10mHJbEmrEiSDvt5yw3OAocSkVaJPqsGcOXW3pwqg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130514154455.GA10062@linux1>

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>  If we are going to take this stance, should we consider removing all
>  packages from the tree that have their upstream on github?
>

Considering that we allow even outright proprietary software in
portage which isn't distributed at all (copy file from CD to
distfiles), we're obviously not going to be concerned about upstreams
on github.

Gentoo's social contract is GENTOO'S social contract.  It governs what
we do, and it doesn't say that we don't accept proprietary software.
It says that we won't DEPEND on proprietary software for our
operations or for anything essential to using Gentoo.

As I already said - I think Github is a gray area.  I'd like to see us
working on an internal workflow tool that is friendly to outsiders
like Gerrit or whatever.  I'd see Github as a useful alternative, or
as an interim solution, but I'd really hate to establish it as the
long-term repository for something that is part of Gentoo without
actively pursuing plans to move it to an FOSS platform.  That's just
my personal opinion though - others really don't want to touch it at
all, and I can't fault them too much since it is contrary to our
social contract.  I'm a pragmatist, but I am charged with helping to
uphold the social contract as a Trustee, and right now there is no
official FOSS long-term solution.

On the list of threats to the org though, I think that getting our
main repository onto git in the first place is a higher priority than
adopting tools like Gerrit/Github/etc.  Right now most of what is left
on that project rests on infra, so I don't want to beat up on them
over not wanting to take on Java/etc.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-14 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-12 11:32 [gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github Markos Chandras
2013-05-12 13:12 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-12 13:27   ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-12 15:02     ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-12 15:15       ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-12 15:12     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-05-12 15:02   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-12 13:15 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-12 15:04   ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-12 15:17     ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-12 15:48     ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-12 15:54       ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-12 16:08         ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-12 16:12           ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-14 15:44           ` William Hubbs
2013-05-14 17:51             ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2013-05-12 16:55         ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-12 16:04       ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-12 17:20     ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-12 17:32       ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-12 18:24         ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-12 18:31           ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-12 22:12           ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-12 22:21             ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-12 22:24               ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-12 22:37                 ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-13  7:09                   ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-12 22:38                 ` W. Trevor King
2013-05-13  6:32                 ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-13  7:07                   ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-13  7:40                     ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-13  7:47                       ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-13 13:28                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-14 15:55               ` William Hubbs
2013-05-13 12:38             ` Greg KH
2013-05-13 12:42               ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-13 21:59                 ` Duncan
2013-05-12 17:33       ` Theo Chatzimichos
2013-05-12 18:22         ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-12 19:18       ` [gentoo-dev] GitLab Feature-Set / Was: " sascha-ml
2013-05-14 13:59         ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-14 14:19           ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-14 14:40             ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-13  3:38     ` [gentoo-dev] " Arun Raghavan
2013-05-12 15:13   ` Richard Yao
2013-05-12 15:38     ` Ulrich Mueller

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